Speculations Toko = Toki

She is Toki ?

  • She is

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • She can be

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • makes sense but I don't want it :p

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • She NOT

    Votes: 9 64.3%

  • Total voters
    14
#1
I've said this before (in OJ) and now after recent revelation I am bringing it again,
O-Toko has to be Lady Toki,
It was mentioned Lady Toki could go to future and not the past and so nobody knew her real age ( when she was born ) however what is a Fact is that she married Oden 29 years ago meaning when they got married Oden was 18+41=59, 59-29=30, Oden was 30 years old at the time of his marriage and so Toki also must've been around that age ..... and then around 9 years later when Momonosuke was 8, Lady Toki at age of 39 sent 5 people to the future of 20 years later....
Everyone has thought why only 5 people why not all of them.... this is exactly why there has to be a reason why Toki didn't send them all, there has to be some kind of limitation preventing Toki from sending them all and so yes it could be true she herself can travel to the future without there be any after affect of using her TimeDF but there comes the limitation of sending others as there is evidence that she is limited to sending specific number of people to future then similarly there might be after affect to using the time powers on others also and I think for each person she sends to future she will have her own age deducted some specific amount of time that is why she was not able to send others because she had already grown back to around -30 years of life, any further and she herself would remain a helpless baby who's mind and body couldn't even move herself to safety and couldn't even make other people understand the situation that she sent them 20 years in future and they should prepare themselves by then....(let's say 6 years of life for each, 5x6=30 years) (and that could exactly be very good reason why her real age couldn't be figured since she might've already grown younger by sending others to future) and so if Toki has lost 30 years she must've been around 9 years old and so after turning into 9 and giving Hiyori to safe hands she herself also jumped 20 years into future before Kinemon and others so she could let people of their arrival again and proving that her powers really works...
and now to why it should be Toki,
First thing the name is very similar,
second we all saw how Hiyori got aggressive and even slapped Shogun for protecting Otoko and then we once again saw her protecting Otoko with her life against Killer
Third, the most recent revelation that 41 years ago Oden calls Yasu as uncle and basing by his appearance Yasu could've very well be above 30, meaning now he was 70+ and so after revelation of this fact, it means if Otoko were his daughter then he got married during Orochi's era and while being 60+.... which is very unlikely to happen specially since there was never any mention of his recently dead wife or even there being any wife of Yasu....and it is very abnormal and unlikely considering One Piece as a whole..... so it is very weird to consider her as Yasu's daughter which they been claiming
and so yes I think it is very likely she is Toki,
(the thing about her laughing like Yasu, we all now know laughing wasn't normal occurence at all but because of failed smile fruits eating)
 
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#2
I've said this before (in OJ) and now after recent revelation I am bringing it again,
O-Toko has to be Lady Toki,
It was mentioned Lady Toki could go to future and not the past and so nobody knew her real age ( when she was born ) however what is a Fact is that she married Oden 29 years ago meaning when they got married Oden was 18+41=59, 59-29=30, Oden was 30 years old at the time of his marriage and so Toki also must've been around that age ..... and then around 9 years later when Momonosuke was 8, Lady Toki at age of 39 sent 5 people to the future of 20 years later....
Everyone has thought why only 5 people why not all of them.... this is exactly why there has to be a reason why Toki didn't send them all, there has to be some kind of limitation preventing Toki from sending them all and so yes it could be true she herself can travel to the future without there be any after affect of using her TimeDF but there comes the limitation of sending others as there is evidence that she is limited to sending specific number of people to future then similarly there might be after affect to using the time powers on others also and I think for each person she sends to future she will have her own age deducted some specific amount of time that is why she was not able to send others because she had already grown back to around -30 years of life, any further and she herself would remain a helpless baby who's mind and body couldn't even move herself to safety and couldn't even make other people understand the situation that she sent them 20 years in future and they should prepare themselves by then....(let's say 6 years of life for each, 5x6=30 years) (and that could exactly be very good reason why her real age couldn't be figured since she might've already grown younger by sending others to future) and so if Toki has lost 30 years she now must be around 9 years old...
and now to why it should be Toki,
First thing the name is very similar,
second we all saw how Hiyori got aggressive and even slapped Shogun for protecting Otoko and then we once again saw her protecting Otoko with her life against Killer
Third, the most recent revelation that 41 years ago Oden calls Yasu as uncle and basing by his appearance Yasu could've very well be above 30, meaning now he was 70+ and so after revelation of this fact, it means if Otoko were his daughter then he got married during Orochi's era and while being 60+.... which is very unlikely to happen specially since there was never any mention of his recently dead wife or even there being any wife of Yasu....and it is very abnormal and unlikely considering One Piece as a whole..... so it is very weird to consider her as Yasu's daughter which they been claiming
and so yes I think it is very likely she is Toki,
(the thing about her laughing like Yasu, we all now know laughing wasn't normal occurence at all but because of failed smile fruits eating)
This would be interesting if true.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#3
Maybe. And it would cause the hatred if toki yasus daughter was wed by oden despite orochi growing up and falling in love with her.
 
H

Homelander

#6
No she is not lol.
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Ok tin foil hat roger married rouge in his 50s.

I am pretty sure toki is dead because kaido and the shogun burned her alive.
 
#14
I have a different question. Can you eat a SMILE fruit if you already ate a real DF? Because young or not, Toki (or Toko by your account) should still possess the Toki Toki no mi and she also ate a SMILE at some point (her smile).
as it was mentioned, SMILEs they ate were failed experiments, they only after affect they got was constant laughing and no additional power...so yeah it should not affect DF users because they just failed drugs with no DF soul in it..... and also maybe you guys remember or not, it was in OJ I think that I already shared my idea that the cure for SMILE fruits could actually be the real DevilFruits, because it is the lack of necessary ingredients that is causing SMILEs to fail and cause that after affect but if a real devil fruit was found and only small portions were given to each and every SMILE user then it should cover the deficiency since real DFs are perfect and have all necessary ingredients and as Oda mentioned only the first person to eat it will have the Devil of the Fruit, everyone else will get cured but only the first one will get cured+get ability......and as I had mentioned I think killer will be the first one to bite it and get cured+ability
 
M

MD Zolo

#15
as it was mentioned, SMILEs they ate were failed experiments, they only after affect they got was constant laughing and no additional power...so yeah it should not affect DF users because they just failed drugs with no DF soul in it..... and also maybe you guys remember or not, it was in OJ I think that I already shared my idea that the cure for SMILE fruits could actually be the real DevilFruits, because it is the lack of necessary ingredients that is causing SMILEs to fail and cause that after affect but if a real devil fruit was found and only small portions were given to each and every SMILE user then it should cover the deficiency since real DFs are perfect and have all necessary ingredients and as Oda mentioned only the first person to eat it will have the Devil of the Fruit, everyone else will get cured but only the first one will get cured+get ability......and as I had mentioned I think killer will be the first one to bite it and get cured+ability
I read that theory and I like it. But I am still not convinced. Because if real DF is the cure, Toki already has it. Why is she suffering from the side-effect then?
 
#16
I read that theory and I like it. But I am still not convinced. Because if real DF is the cure, Toki already has it. Why is she suffering from the side-effect then?
Good question haha....then I guess my healing theory might not be true however for this theory SMILE still was failed experiment not real DF, just Drug like Opium or similar ..... btw what other healing method might be there ?
 
#20
Definitely interesting theory.

O Toko being small kid to Yasui who naturally should be instead Grampa to her do seems odd enough for me to consider this theory a good possibility.

But like @MD Zolo raised the Df and smile df inconsistentcy that makes me doubt the theory. The smile shouldn't have worked on already a devil fruit user. Plus mentally she doesn't look so mature like Toki would have been.
So i think other theories like Toko not being Yasu Kid and not Toki seems more probable to me.
 
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