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[Hedfi]

Oda really foreshadowing Vermillion Bird because most of YC1 had range attack/ability and Sanji's original design
Sanji will have range attack guys

Vermillion Bird would be cool, but I'm leaning towards Lucifer though. We already have a Buddha, why not a Lucifer.

 

[Lunaria]

Sanji would rather die than letting Zeff die.

"B-But Sanji is a coward that would rather abandon his dream than die trying to achieve it !"

It baffles me that so many fans still don't get the true meaning of this interaction with Zoro to this day.

 

[BangOO🍅]

Vermillion Bird would be cool, but I'm leaning towards Lucifer though. We already have a Buddha, why not a Lucifer.

Well Lucifer indeed is cooler, but we still dont have some lore about satan/devil in One Piece world.
With Vermillion Bird, we already have Azure Dragon (Koido), White Tiger (prob Yamato), and Black Turtle (?).

Sanji become a Vermillion Bird will fill the "Chinese constellation"

 

[Lunaria]

Vermillion Bird would be cool, but I'm leaning towards Lucifer though. We already have a Buddha, why not a Lucifer.

Red skin and horns with DJ.

 

[Chrono]

"B-But Sanji is a coward that would rather abandon his dream than die trying to achieve it !"

It baffles me that so many fans still don't get the true meaning of this interaction with Zoro to this day.

Yh Sanji's dream turned into a debt to Zeff. Thus he would do anything to protect him. After he heard Zeff wanting for him to go....then Sanji was fully able to focus on his dream again.

 

[Hedfi]

Well Lucifer indeed is cooler, but we still dont have some lore about satan/devil in One Piece world.
With Vermillion Bird, we already have Azure Dragon (Koido), White Tiger (prob Yamato), and Black Turtle (?).

Sanji become a Vermillion Bird will fill the "Chinese constellation"

The Vermillion bird/Phoenix spot is already accupied by Marco in my opinion. The turtle though, I don't know who it could be but maybe it's whoever this Oden that appeared end up truely being.

Sanji has more connection to Lucifer than the Vermillion Bird throughout the series that's why I'm leaning towards him.

 

[Lunaria]

Yh Sanji's dream turned into a debt to Zeff. Thus he would do anything to protect him. After he heard Zeff wanting for him to go....then Sanji was fully able to focus on his dream again.

Yep and him telling Zoro to abandon his dream was just Sanji trying to shut down the part of him that wanted to find All Blue. Zoro was just a substitute for Sanji's inner conflict and represented the other part of him. That's the whole theme of Baratie arc. Too many fans focus on some sentences without even trying to read the subtext.

 

[Chrono]

The Vermillion bird/Phoenix spot is already accupied by Marco in my opinion. The turtle though, I don't know who it could be but maybe it's whoever this Oden that appeared end up truely being.

Sanji has more connection to Lucifer than the Vermillion Bird throughout the series that's why I'm leaning towards him.

But Kaido is a true Seiryu. And Yamato is highly likely to be a Byakko. A phoenix and a Suzaku are not the same thing....

 

[BangOO🍅]

The Vermillion bird/Phoenix spot is already accupied by Marco in my opinion. The turtle though, I don't know who it could be but maybe it's whoever this Oden that appeared end up truely being.

Sanji has more connection to Lucifer than the Vermillion Bird throughout the series that's why I'm leaning towards him.

It will somehow about "Lineage factor".
I mean i want Sanji to be Lucifer too but there is no lore about that.

 

[Ballel]

Yep and him telling Zoro to abandon his dream was just Sanji trying to shut down the part of him that wanted to find All Blue. Zoro was just a substitute for Sanji's inner conflict and represented the other part of him. That's the whole theme of Baratie arc. Too many fans focus on some sentences without even trying to read the subtext.

 

[Hedfi]

But Kaido is a true Seiryu. And Yamato is highly likely to be a Byakko. A phoenix and a Suzaku are not the same thing....

They're close enough, no? I don't think Oda will introduce two Mythical birds in his series. It'll be repetitive in my opinion. In addition there's no two mythicals from the same model(Fish, Bird, Human, Dog, etc...) throughut the series.

I can't deny it's still possible he'd though.

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It will somehow about "Lineage factor".
I mean i want Sanji to be Lucifer too but there is no lore about that.

It all depends on Oda I guess. :cheers:

 

[Lunaria]

It will somehow about "Lineage factor".
I mean i want Sanji to be Lucifer too but there is no lore about that.

Lineage Factor isn't in conflict with a demonic transformation, quite the opposite. If Judge used the Lineage Factor researches to give Sanji the power of a Mythical Zoan, it would justify a demonic form perfectly.

 

[BangOO🍅]

Having Vermillion Bird also ties with Admiral's Epithet
Red Dog, Blue Pheasant, Yellow Monkey, Purple Tiger, Green Bull.

On top of that, Sanji having "bird" power is so symbolic because bird is free and that shows if Sanji will be free from every burden he have rn.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanji talks about bird.

 

[Jackteo]

Sanji talks about bird.

Sanji doesn't need something to cover his head and has a sun on his shoulder, fire is really his element

 

[Lunaria]

Hey!! You there, sit down!! Now listen!! Everyone lives in circles!! The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth all spin in circles!! And!! If the Earth suddenly stopped spinning!! The planet would be covered in tidal waves!! It would be terrible!! Now remember that Sanji's eyebrow channels that same powerful circular energy!! Reflect upon this!! You may go!!

Bighorn sheep symbolism :

The ram symbol meaning is strongly related to the ram horns, which are curled in a spiral. The meaning of ram, in this case, is associated with the circle of life, birth, and rebirth. Hopi people depict their God of fertility as a Bighorn sheep.

:zorothink:

 

[Chrono]

They're close enough, no? I don't think Oda will introduce two Mythical birds in his series. It'll be repetitive in my opinion. In addition there's no two mythicals from the same model(Fish, Bird, Human, Dog, etc...) throughut the series.

I can't deny it's still possible he'd though.

But we have two Dragons Momo and Kaido.....

Anyways Suzaku's are red, so he wouldnt look like Marco at all. And technically even though Sanji is a mythical Zoan....he didnt eat a DF. He himself is the artificial fruit. But lets see how it goes...

Luffy and Katakuri fought because they were so alike. I can see Oda doing the same for King and Sanji. Two flame birds going at it...

 

[Hedfi]

:zorothink:

Sanji will be reborn anew from fire.

 

[Jackteo]

Sanji will be reborn anew from fire.

Just like a phoenix

 

[Hedfi]

Luffy and Katakuri fought because they were so alike. I can see Oda doing the same for King and Sanji. Two flame birds going at it...

That's a good way to look at it I guees.

As long as Sanji looks cool, I'm fine with either Lucifer or a Vermillion Bird in the end.