Powers & Abilities Sanji hasn’t gone all out since the timeskip.

[nostromo]

The Dressrosa flashback showed us how unlikely is that Zoro will break swords again during his journey as long as their enemies are not too astoundingly powerful.

You're right, but what characters say doesn't always come true. As you said Kaido is strong enough to eventually break Enma. Zoro will have to learn how to use advanced ryuo with all his swords, Enma is only the means to speed up this process after all.

 

[Peroroncino]

You're right, but what characters say doesn't always come true. As you said Kaido is strong enough to eventually break Enma. Zoro will have to learn how to use advanced ryuo with all his swords, Enma is only the means to speed up this process after all.

i think kitetsu 3 may break since its the weakest sword

 

[Finalbeta]

You're right, but what characters say doesn't always come true. As you said Kaido is strong enough to eventually break Enma. Zoro will have to learn how to use advanced ryuo with all his swords, Enma is only the means to speed up this process after all.

I think the plot itself implicated that.

 

[Nolimittweezy]

it was in that state for what? mere seconds.. even diable jambe is a technique but the damage depends on what attack u use, it was just a basic kick from sanji and Wadatsumi got knocked..

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True plot too

Who said it was a state? Sanji called it an attack.

 

[BleakAsh]

Who said it was a state? Sanji called it an attack.

Hell memories is a move.. But him being engulfed in flames is an extensive version of diable jambe which boost his kick strength through speed and increase his flames intensity... and this state has its own set moves and skills.

From what it seems like it its like diable jambe.

@Chrono correct me if I'm incorrect here

 

[Chrono]

Hell memories is a move.. But him being engulfed in flames is an extensive version of diable jambe which boost his kick strength through speed and increase his flames intensity... and this state has its own set moves and skills.

From what it seems like it its like diable jambe.

@Chrono correct me if I'm incorrect here

DJ and HM are both states....

Sanji was moving around in HM pre timeskip.

Spoiler

It's only logcial to assume it's a form since generating and producing fire seems to be a breeze for Sanji.

 

[trav]

Sanjifans credibility decreases due to anger.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Everyone is saying "but but.... Sanji got restrained and he didn't know doflamingo's ability"

You know what a truly Strong guy does, break out of it like zoro did against a fucking admiral.

Zoro didn't know Fujitora's abilities, and even who he is.

When zoro was restrained not only did he breakout of it but also counter attacked it at the same time.

If zoro was there in place of sanji, doflamingo's cocky grin would have disappeared.

Doffy when Zoro and Kinemon was charging towards him:

Doffy when Sanji was charging towards him:

Doffy was afraid of Sanji.

While Zoro and Kinemon shits their pants against Doffy.

Zoro pushing Fuji is nothing special. Luffy was pushing Fuji back. Even Morley injured Fuji while Zoro didn't.

Doffy wasn't afraid of Fuji but he's scared of Sanji.

 

[Shelby]

Sanji was definitely trying his hardest to defeat Doflamingo and save Nami. He just got his ass kicked because he was way weaker than Doflamingo, not because he was holding back.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Glad the poll isn't retarded like the other ones.

 

[Chrono]

Sanji was definitely trying his hardest to defeat Doflamingo and save Nami. He just got his ass kicked because he was way weaker than Doflamingo, not because he was holding back.

He lost because of Doffy's DF. Which Sanji referred to as a trick. Sanji didn't know how Doffy was landing hits, he never knew how Doffy was dodging. Nor did he know what was going on with Parasite. Sanji's lost to Doffy has nothing to do with Doffy being stronger....regardless if he was.

 

[Hiragaro]

Reading the Manga is enough to understand that Sanji didn't go all out lol - a really obvious thread.

 

[HA001]

He lost because of Doffy's DF. Which Sanji referred to as a trick. Sanji didn't know how Doffy was landing hits, he never knew how Doffy was dodging. Nor did he know what was going on with Parasite. Sanji's lost to Doffy has nothing to do with Doffy being stronger....regardless if he was.

He got neg diffed. It had a lot to do with doffy being stronger. He couldn't even break through doffys coat

 

[Shelby]

He lost because of Doffy's DF. Which Sanji referred to as a trick. Sanji didn't know how Doffy was landing hits, he never knew how Doffy was dodging. Nor did he know what was going on with Parasite. Sanji's lost to Doffy has nothing to do with Doffy being stronger....regardless if he was.

It was a fair 1v1 fight with no outside interference or nobody catching the other off-guard. Sanji was completely helpless against Doflamingo and was much weaker.

A rematch with current Sanji would be a different story however. But Dressrosa Sanji a low difficulty fight for Doflamingo.

 

[Finalbeta]

He lost because of Doffy's DF. Which Sanji referred to as a trick. Sanji didn't know how Doffy was landing hits, he never knew how Doffy was dodging. Nor did he know what was going on with Parasite. Sanji's lost to Doffy has nothing to do with Doffy being stronger....regardless if he was.

He lost because of Doflamingo not because of a devil fruit.

This leap in logic is astoundingly profound.

Not to mention that Sanji is not even nerfed against Doffy, the issue is he was too weak to resist to his parasite.

 

[BleakAsh]

DJ and HM are both states....

Sanji was moving around in HM pre timeskip.

Spoiler

It's only logcial to assume it's a form since generating and producing fire seems to be a breeze for Sanji.

Yuh thx

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Hell Memories is a mid tier technique at most, it was a gag technique after all (anime represented it quite good).

He went all out in WCI. Oven and Daifuku are strong simply, stronger than the strongest Tobi Roppo, that's all, so it's normal that Sanji couldn't beat them quickly. If he could, he would have done it. For example, despite the match ending with a oneshot in Zoro vs Killer, they fought offpanel for some time, so at most Sanji would have done something like that against those two in a 1 vs 1, but the situation and context were entirely different, so it wasn't possible a long battle.

He engaged Doffy in his natural environment, a guy already a tier above him plus this extra advantage, so there was no chance for him to show a good display.
He oneshoted P1 after he ended with the suit testing.
And with King it was a rescue moment, there was no time to go all out, and no point since the goal was to free Momo and not engaging with King.

Almost everything you stated is either Headcanon or complete BS.
Where was it stated Sanji 1 shotted page 1 after suit testing?
Nowhere is it implied Oven and Dai are stronger than flying 6. Who Jenbei is fighting one fir a hour now.
Hell memories was his ultimate move in FI

 

[Shelby]

Doflamingo blocked and dodged all of Sanji’s attacks without the help of his fruit. Why are you giving all the credit to Doflamingo’s fruit? Sanji even got a free hit at the start of the fight and still lost.

 

[BleakAsh]

He lost because of Doflamingo not because of a devil fruit.

This leap in logic is astoundingly profound.

Not to mention that Sanji is not even nerfed against Doffy, the issue is he was too weak to resist to his parasite.

So was someone like jozu that doesn't make him weak, your statements don't deal with primary logic itself, luffy was stuck in parasytes, its not that luffy was weak is that he didn't require the right counter to doffy until he activated gear 4, so there are factors to a fight where on has an edge due to certain abilities, its worst for sanji coz that was sneak attack from doffy to restrain sanji, which just aggregates into considering sanji a worthy opponent, and why would an enemy even admire you and dodge your attack if you're that weak. the premise of your analysis is bias and flawed.

 

[Shelby]

Doflamingo also kicked Law’s ass and pre-Gear 4th Luffy’s ass. There’s no shame in Sanji getting his ass kicked as well, Chrono.