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Then why humiliate him? Jokes are good, I like jokes... Oda made Sanji funny even in pre-skip but he didn't humiliate him.

Yes he can, and he did it in pre-skip. I mean of course Oda never made as much jokes with Zoro as with Sanji, but still...

Bull shit, Zoro lost to Enel in 1v1 scenario, so...

That means absolutely nothing, lol
Oda doesn’t consider it’s humiliation he clearly thinks it’s funny

It wasn’t 1v1 it was a group fight and then he lost. That’s gonna be Odas excuse in the future.

It means a lot. When has Oda made sanji look bad as a cook or nami look bad as navigator or brook look bad as a musician? He never has.
 
Raid doesn't need to fail for him to fight Queen.
yeah it does because no one besides a straw hat is taking down someone like king which should be common sense.

Do you guys seriously believe that queen is being taken down by sanji when nothing points to that? Queens plot is with drake chopper and the grifters nothing to do with sanji
 
Bull shit, Oda had all the opportunities in the world to give Sanji, a solid–good 1v1 in WCI. The WCI arc was all about Sanji: the entire arc food themed, with every character having food related abilities, with many characters that could have been Sanji's potential opponents etc. Oda simply refused to give that fu*king fight–but no just that... Oda didn't even allow Sanji's cooking ability to shine: Sanji spent two years trying to get those okama recipes that can make you stronger and never even brought it in the entire WCI, and at this point I don't even think that Oda will ever them important in the story. Sanji baking the cake is nothing special, with enough time any cook would be able to that so don't use it as way to redeem Oda.
As much as I hate WCI, there was clear set-ups for why Sanji wasn't supposed to fight. Firstly, it mirrors the Baratie arc....where Sanji never defeated anyone, and was instead saved by his kindness at the end. Oda further elaborating on his kindness in the arc...shows where he was going with it. Secondly....Oda wanted to show that emotions/kindness trumps strength and having no emotions......thus Sanji being the only son to have saved Judge. Thirdly I'm pretty sure the Sim-Sim whip is something Sanji learned within the timeskip. Oda should've elaborated on it further....but Sanji's cooking skills really have improved. He showed plenty of cooking feats. With being able to recreate the entire cake...by smell. To making the sim sim whip that makes people faint.

Even though Sanji never got a fight...(again I'm pissed too). The cake was potrayed as pretty vital in making BM leave the SHs. With Sanji getting the same potrayal as Luffy as one of the saviours of that arc. I do think Oda fucked up by not having Sanji have a fight....but then again it would've complicated the cake plot if the BMPs found out Sanji was helping in cooking the cake.

Overall the arc was a miss for Sanji in terms of fighting. But Oda's intention probably wasn't to make Sanji look bad. Like I said...he better make up for it this arc.
 
Sanji is a fighter. He’s gonna fight king unless the raid fails which means he fights queen.

it’s not an excuse it’s common sense. Zoros role in the straw hats is combatant that’s why he is always fighting
Read what i said. I said hes mainly a coom. Never said hes not a fighter at all. And you gonna ignore the other part of my comment just because you dont know what to say to it? You can have character development and still fight a 1v1 its honestly irrelevant. Zoro has character development aswell hes a combatant that has character development.
 
yeah it does because no one besides a straw hat is taking down someone like king which should be common sense.

Do you guys seriously believe that queen is being taken down by sanji when nothing points to that? Queens plot is with drake chopper and the grifters nothing to do with sanji
Same logic for Queen. Queen's plot is with the Vinsmokes. Doesn't matter who fights King but Sanji vs Queen got more going on than King.
 
Bull shit, Oda had all the opportunities in the world to give Sanji, a solid–good 1v1 in WCI. The WCI arc was all about Sanji: the entire arc food themed, with every character having food related abilities, with many characters that could have been Sanji's potential opponents etc. Oda simply refused to give that fu*king fight–but no just that... Oda didn't even allow Sanji's cooking ability to shine: Sanji spent two years trying to get those okama recipes that can make you stronger and never even brought it in the entire WCI, and at this point I don't even think that Oda will ever them important in the story. Sanji baking the cake is nothing special, with enough time any cook would be able to that so don't use it as way to redeem Oda.
Sanji used one of the 99 recipes to make the wedding cake btw. Simsim Cream.
 
Read what i said. I said hes mainly a coom. Never said hes not a fighter at all. And you gonna ignore the other part of my comment just because you dont know what to say to it? You can have character development and still fight a 1v1 its honestly irrelevant. Zoro has character development aswell hes a combatant that has character development.
Zoro barely has character development. I’m not gonna argue on Zoros character development rn. The point of whole cake wasn’t to fight everyone there is that was the point all the straw hats would be there. Oda only wanted luffy to get his fights to get stronger for kaido. Sanji still hasn’t gone all out post timeskip just like the rest of the straw hats.

Sanji also bodied multiple people in whole cake like some of the ministers
 
Surprised Sanji fans think now that WCI wasn't a place for Sanji to get a 1v1 which I always thought so anyway but back then these were the predictions from his fans:

Sanji vs Ichiji, Judge, Niji, Katakuri, Daifuku, Oven, Perospero, Snack :quest:
Nobody besides luffy got a 1v1. It was a runaway arc. Everyone is getting fights here. This is the end of saga climax arc. Comparing that and wano is like comparing drum island to alabasta or something
 
Nobody besides luffy got a 1v1. It was a runaway arc. Everyone is getting fights here. This is the end of saga climax arc. Comparing that and wano is like comparing drum island to alabasta or something
Of course. I agree with that, just that many Sanji fanboys craved for Sanji vs X character in WCI.
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Lmao who the hell said his plot is with the vinsmokes? Using your logic sanji should fight CP0
CP0 aren't arc villains. But maybe he still fights a side character.
 
The arc was about sanjis character development and going into his dark past.
And no character development happened in WCI, absolutely nothing.
No one else in the straw hats besides luffy got a 1v1 does Oda hate them also?
It wasn't their arc lol.
It’s like you guys think Oda only cares about fights when he clearly doesn’t give a shit. Oda has purposely been holding back the straw hats to show what they can do this arc. That’s why zoro went up against trash like pica
Only Sanji has been proven to extremely weak an useless whiteout the raid suit. Oda needed to make Sanji weak in order to justify the raid suit.
 
Read what i said. I said hes mainly a coom. Never said hes not a fighter at all. And you gonna ignore the other part of my comment just because you dont know what to say to it? You can have character development and still fight a 1v1 its honestly irrelevant. Zoro has character development aswell hes a combatant that has character development.
you know why people are not satisfied with sanji even though everyone knows he is a cook. its because he was shown as some kind of rival to zoro but zoro is far above sanji right now(atleast in terms of feats coz we dont know the full strength of either of them). And while zoro is fighting yonkos while sanji is just roaming around, being caught in trap etc etc.. Everyone wants him to be more than just a cook of Strawhats.

I would personally want him to fight king
 
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