Chapter Discussion Evil Oden should have been Shogun Orochi

[T.D.A]

Oda deprived us of a badass Shogun antagonist.

 

[Worst]

At the beginning i was also hoping for a Badass Shogun Swordsman, but Orochi is a damn good villain....if he was also strong he would have been Shogun King by now....

 

[MasterD]

Orochi is a good villain he doesn't look strong enough but he is a good villain Also he couldn't be oden his powers don't allow him to shape shift from what we know

 

[Fuckthis3]

Agree bae

 

[Rivaille]

Oda deprived us of a badass Shogun antagonist.

An evil Oden would mean a weak and coward leader for the Kozuki. Because it is clear now that Oda wanted to have Oden and Orochi to be the complete opposite of each other.

 

[Finalbeta]

At the beginning i was also hoping for a Badass Shogun Swordsman, but Orochi is a damn good villain....if he was also strong he would have been Shogun King by now....

Like this one maybe

 

[T.D.A]

An evil Oden would mean a weak and coward leader for the Kozuki. Because it is clear now that Oda wanted to have Oden and Orochi to be the complete opposite of each other.

I think it was a missed opportunity not to have an actual strong and militant leader opposing the Kozuki, Oda went down the easy route with the fodder weak Orochi we got.

 

[Rivaille]

I think it was a missed opportunity not to have an actual strong and militant leader opposing the Kozuki, Oda went down the easy route with the fodder weak Orochi we got.

You think it would have been better to have a strong shogun and a strong Oden?
Don’t you think that it would been detrimental to Kaido?

 

[Chrono]

Ahh yesss.....Zoro's Wano opponent.

 

[Ballel]

I think it was a missed opportunity not to have an actual strong and militant leader opposing the Kozuki, Oda went down the easy route with the fodder weak Orochi we got.

Yall know that the cowardly, incompetent shogun character is basically a Japanese trope?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Yall know that the cowardly, incompetent shogun character is basically a Japanese trope?

Kabuki Theater trope in particular
Noh Theater on the others hand potrays Military figures as Godlike people

Wano Arc is clearly based on Kabuki so idk how people didn't see this cominh

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

But Oden too stupid for being antagonist, he made Big Meme look like Issac Newton

 

[Finalbeta]

But Oden too stupid for being antagonist, he made Big Meme look like Issac Newton

Big Mom has still got to achieve something of important this arc, the PIS continues. A yonko level character being nigh useless, her attacks merely tickling smh.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Agreed whole heartedly. We ended up with a sniveling albeit oddly entertaining character who’s motivation is just a rehash of Doflamingo’s and his actions just a rehash of Crocodile’s.

He’s wasted potential and only makes up for it with his sheer malice.

Would’ve been much better if we got a more calculating and taunting character. Someone who was the inverse of Oden who seemed humbled by his journeys and didn’t have much thought in his head.

Before Wano started, I was expecting this guy.

And ever since his reveal I’ve been nursing that upset feeling over The Orochi we got.

 

[HA001]

Agreed whole heartedly. We ended up with a sniveling albeit oddly entertaining character who’s motivation is just a rehash of Doflamingo’s and his actions just a rehash of Crocodile’s.

He’s wasted potential and only makes up for it with his sheer malice.

Would’ve been much better if we got a more calculating and taunting character. Someone who was the inverse of Oden who seemed humbled by his journeys and didn’t have much thought in his head.

Before Wano started, I was expecting this guy.

And ever since his reveal I’ve been nursing that upset feeling over The Orochi we got.

If oden was evil with the yamato no orochi fruit it would have looked amazing.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Before Wano started, I was expecting this guy.

How can you look at Kinemon Raizo and Kanjro's designs and expect a design like that for Wano Characters?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

If oden was evil with the yamato no orochi fruit it would have looked amazing.

Make the fruit look less ugly/comical too and we’d have a fantastic Wano antagonist. Something we kinda are missing.

 

[Finalbeta]

How can you look at Kinemon Raizo and Kanjro's designs and expect a design like that for Wano Characters?

Honestly that's one of the last things I look at when thinking about this arc.

I have to admit that a few designs are very nice, I like Yamato's for example.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

If only.

 

[Finalbeta]

If only.