Future Events Luffy and Zoro's feats vs Yonko makes Sanji beating King more likely

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Luffy and Zoro, especially the latter have done much better than expected, pulling off some insane feats that were previously considered impossible.

Most people would say Sanji can't beat King but just like with Luffy and Zoro, Oda may surprise us and give Sanji feats against a YC1 opponent.

That doesn't mean Sanji will 1v1 King. I can see situation where it's Sanji and Marco vs King, with Sanji finishing the fight and beating King at the end.

Sanji having feats against a YC1 doesn't break the power dynamics among the SHs now that we see how strong Luffy and Zoro are vs Yonko.

Queen is still a good possibility for Sanji due to the Germa link, but I don't think we should discount Sanji being able to do significant damage to King as Oda may once against surprise us.
 
#2
The reason it makes sense for Luffy and Zoro to get these feats is Luffy has been in a bunch of extreme-diff battles and had plenty of training so we see him evolve while Oda purposefully highlighted Zoro not going all out since the timeskip after training with a top tier like Mihawk while still wrecking shit and having feats against an admiral.

We've seen Sanji constantly lose since the timeskip so we know what he's capable of. It just doesn't make sense for him to beat King.
 
#4
The reason it makes sense for Luffy and Zoro to get these feats is Luffy has been in a bunch of extreme-diff battles and had plenty of training so we see him evolve while Oda purposefully highlighted Zoro not going all out since the timeskip after training with a top tier like Mihawk while still wrecking shit and having feats against an admiral.

We've seen Sanji constantly lose since the timeskip so we know what he's capable of. It just doesn't make sense for him to beat King.
That was before the Raid Suit. With the RS, Oda basically has a blank canvas to play with.
 
#5
That was before the Raid Suit. With the RS, Oda basically has a blank canvas to play with.
No he doesn't. RS has same attributes for all Vinsmokes except their special abilities. Sanji's feats will have to scale with other Rs
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Luffy and Zoro, especially the latter have done much better than expected, pulling off some insane feats that were previously considered impossible.

Most people would say Sanji can't beat King but just like with Luffy and Zoro, Oda may surprise us and give Sanji feats against a YC1 opponent.

That doesn't mean Sanji will 1v1 King. I can see situation where it's Sanji and Marco vs King, with Sanji finishing the fight and beating King at the end.

Sanji having feats against a YC1 doesn't break the power dynamics among the SHs now that we see how strong Luffy and Zoro are vs Yonko.

Queen is still a good possibility for Sanji due to the Germa link, but I don't think we should discount Sanji being able to do significant damage to King as Oda may once against surprise us.
It doesn't work that way.
Zoro's limits were not tested before the rooftop battle.
Sanji's have been demonstrated over and over. The RS argument would only hold if it was one of a kind....which it isn't
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#6
I'm still hell bent on the Yamato to reach the rooftop train and Marco to have no substantial reason to quit until forced enough to.

If Yamato shall meet her dad it shall probably occur on the rooftop and regardless of this or not to be the case she might encounter King and take on him nonetheless.
 
#10
I don’t know what feats you’re talking about...it was stated clearly last chapter before this one that they are hopeless. but you guys like to overlook that and overrate the shit out of it

Sanji stands no chance.
 
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Haoshoku

#13
I don’t understand why people are so opposed to Sanji vs King. Is really that big of a step up from him vs Queen? King hasn’t been looking the standout Katakuri was in comparison to the rest of his crew. And when you got Franky vs Sasaki, Nami/Ussop vs Ulti/Page One and Robin vs Black Mariah, what exactly doesn’t sit well with Sanji vs King? The Straw Hats have gone in as underdogs in all of these fights save Jinbe. They’ve gone in as underdogs in almost every major arc.

So why is King out of reach for Sanji if it were to happen? Some people were using the same logic to deny Zoro fighting Kaido or Franky fighting Sasaki yet both have been holding up well in their respective battles. These fights aren’t gonna be dictated by perceived power levels, the matchups with the Flying Six already make that crystal clear.
 
#14
I don’t understand why people are so opposed to Sanji vs King. Is really that big of a step up from him vs Queen?
1 - Because the premise of the theory is a troll against the Zoro fans. Therefore no one is taking that seriously because most of the Sanji fans themselves did not genuinely believe it until Zoro reach the roof.

2 - Because even tho we are in chapter 1009 people still refuse to understand that One Piece is a story and not a feat dictionary. Fight happens because the story dictate them and not because powerscalling reason

3 - Because King and Sanji does not share any link. A clash is not enough or else Zoro final fight this arc would have been Hawkins. Sanji connection with Queen seems to be more legit than the one with King

The fight might happen but it will not be to « compensate » Sanji in comparison to Zoro and Luffy nor because King is flying or have a cool design. If the fight happens it is because it makes sense story wise and character wise.
 
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Haoshoku

#15
Because the premise of the theory is a troll against the Zoro fans. Therefore no one is taking that seriously because most of the Sanji fans themselves did not genuinely believe it until Zoro reach the roof.
Why does this matter?
Because even tho we are in chapter 1009 people still refuse to understand that One Piece is a story and not a feat dictionary. Fight happens because the story dictate them and not because powerscalling reason
Which is exactly why Sanji vs King shouldn’t be opposed just because Sanji’s resume isn’t stacking up. Nami’s resume doesn’t stack up vs Ulti, nor does Franky’s vs Sasaki, yet these fights are already in full swing.
3 - Because King and Sanji does not share any link. A clash is not enough or else Zoro final fight this arc would have been Hawkins. Sanji connection with Queen seems to be more legit than the one with King
This is the only legitimate reason to oppose it, since King is looking he’s going to continue to fight Marco in a 1v1 this time opening up the doors for Queen vs Sanji. All this other “Sanji is too weak” “Sanji doesn’t have the feats” nonsense doesn’t hold any weight whatsoever, because it didn’t matter for the other fights.
 
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stealthblack

#16
zoro is almost defeated, luffy can only win with help of kid and law.sanji can still get queen
 
#17
The reason it makes sense for Luffy and Zoro to get these feats is Luffy has been in a bunch of extreme-diff battles and had plenty of training so we see him evolve while Oda purposefully highlighted Zoro not going all out since the timeskip after training with a top tier like Mihawk while still wrecking shit and having feats against an admiral.

We've seen Sanji constantly lose since the timeskip so we know what he's capable of. It just doesn't make sense for him to beat King.
So wats zoro feat again against fujitora he only send a surprise sword slash and push him bk lil bit but fujitora use a nameless attack and made zoro caught up blood and breathing heavily, as if zoro could beat fujitora, if there clash continued :milaugh:sanji clash with mingo and I'd say he did better stopping mingo in he's tracks and force him to use a names attack, and even den he continue to go after mingo, yeah he lost but bc he had no idea of mingo powers unlike law, luffy got save by others so many time I can count but it's only bad wrong wen it happen to sanji smh ,
 
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#19
I don’t know what feats you’re talking about...it was stated clearly last chapter before this one that they are hopeless. but you guys like to overlook that and overrate the shit out of it

Sanji stands no chance.
Yeah the same can be said about luffy and zoro back then bug look how things play out :kayneshrug:
 
#20
1 - Because the premise of the theory is a troll against the Zoro fans. Therefore no one is taking that seriously because most of the Sanji fans themselves did not genuinely believe it until Zoro reach the roof.

2 - Because even tho we are in chapter 1009 people still refuse to understand that One Piece is a story and not a feat dictionary. Fight happens because the story dictate them and not because powerscalling reason

3 - Because King and Sanji does not share any link. A clash is not enough or else Zoro final fight this arc would have been Hawkins. Sanji connection with Queen seems to be more legit than the one with King

The fight might happen but it will not be to « compensate » Sanji in comparison to Zoro and Luffy nor because King is flying or have a cool design. If the fight happens it is because it makes sense story wise and character wise.
1 - No it's not. A few Sanji fans ( Me included) believed in Sanji vs King before Onigashma started. And most people started to buy into the idea of Sanji vs King when they both clashed. This happened before Zoro went to the roof. Nobody gives a fuck about Zoro.

2 - Whatever

3 - So King wanting to actively hurt everyone Sanji wants to protect is not good enough ? Sanji aiming to save Momo and the Scabbards multiple times this arc, whilst on the other hand.... King is aiming to kill them and telling people to kill them. Showing both their goals are literally contrasting each others. That is a far bigger link then knowing someone Sanji doesn't care about.

If you agree it makes sense story wise, then don't fucking say they have no link.
 
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