Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion

[DiscoZoro20]

Wait you legit have me confused now

What I am saying is Zoro is not just Using his haki, he also uses a special sword to help him utilize that haki. And in a SBS Oda told us that this haki is supposed to be his speciality. Yet he Cannot use advanced armament haki or whatever it is without that sword.

Now compare that to Luffy. Luffy learned to use an advanced Form of Armament haki just with instructions. He can do it with or without said sword even so he does NOT specialise in armament haki but King's haki.

Now think about it... Isn't it bizarre that Zoro can suddenly use advanced King's haki in a very special Form for 2 years yet not use "ryuo" Which Oda implies he should have natural Talent for while other people who do in fact specialise in King's haki don't have such forms revealed yet? Like the portrayal is just completely inverted. That is why I am a bit sceptical about ashura being King's haki.

 

[BleakAsh]

I'm

And Vergod used his ankle leg switch style on some trashboi like Limpleg while he used bamboo to fight real people

See the spoiler...

Spoiler

I'm talking about luffy... he is an admrial atm i think admiral + but meh

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

So Luffy with all those enhanced attacks with CoC didn't do shit while half dead Zoro left a scar on the body of Kaido who tried to attack him bigger
>>>> >than Togen totsuka of the scabbards or Oden which means Luffy even with power ups can't match Half dead Zoro feats.

 

[Zowo]

I don't see any Black Lightning when Zoro uses Ashura the way it appears when Luffy uses the advanced CoC, so i guess, he did not use the same thing with it ?

@Cinera

So Kaido just felt that he is a conqueror the way he did when he beat up Luffy the first time ?

zoro s coc is different :cheers:
can create 3 heads 6 arms

 

[Pantheos]

The second strongest in the alliance is zoro dude . Unless you have feats to say otherwise ! I’ll wait...

The second strongest gets the second strongest Enemy for himself. Classic shonen. Deal with it.

 

[kom5]

Nope... Just wait. Even Yamato Will reach the roof and see luffy in bad state.

Well I will make thread about it but its a scheme here OP follows

 

[Kuro Ashi]

I know he is a confirmed CoC at this point.
Just saying that it would be cooler make him more unique, instead of giving him some hype thing that a bunch of other characters already have.

He could get it though eventually, especially if @Red Admiral was right with saying that the shadows Kaido was seeing behind Luffy are those who could use this advanced CoC in the past.

With Oden among those shadows, if he could do it, then this gives us something to look forward to for Zoro as well to learn to use to some extent by EoS.

 

[Doggo]

idk now, coz by definition its a manifestation/embodiment of one's spirit... CoA also comes in that category but the dread one feels when one embodies one's spirit should be Coc.. or a Derivative



IF IT DOESN'T TURN OUT TO BE COC... FUCK ODA FOR PULLING AN APRIL FOOL ON US AND PULLING THIS SHIT TWICE ABOUT ZORO HAVING COC

What I don't like about CoC, is the way it is different from the other Hakis.
You are either BORN with it, or you don't. You can't "learn it".
Gives more of a "lucky" vibe than a "hardworking" one, especially when the character, at this point in the story, doesn't even fucking know he has it. One thing was Luffy pre TS, when he was a newbie. But Zoro after his 2 year training with Mihawk? Come on...that's REALLY pushing it.

 

[ZoroMazino]

Luffy will never solo Kaido

Yamato will join the fight

 

[WesMidnight]

I feel like Oda introducing Kaido at this point, made Luffy way too fucking strong. The guy is clearly Yonko level after this CoC boost.

Imagine Gear 4 + CoC. That is insanity. PK level shit.

BB and Imu will both be stronger than Roger was.

 

[Gintoki]

Luffy is not more effective . Zoro did way more damage he did an oden level feat on hybrid kaido . Luffy added on tot hat with punches that actuall work .

Nah Oden make Kaido squirms in pain while Zolo hasn't

 

[Rayleigh-Sama]

What makes you think he doesn't have it?
Rayleigh said those who make a name for themselves in this world often have this power.
All toptier have been shown to be CoC user.
Sengoku has CoC confirmed.

kizaru's behaviour makes me think otherwise, his databook also states that he likes taking orders, and we know he is more laid back person

I havent seen these traits in anyone with coc

 

[FreezyBreeze]

Gonna need Zoro to take out a massive amount of fodder with his CoC when he’s done recovering. Gotta follow the right of passage

 

[Guymieux]

The second strongest gets the second strongest Enemy for himself. Classic shonen. Deal with it.

He’s literally fighting with killer . Zoro isn’t done with kaido and he already has an oden level feat . You’re the one that needs to deal with it .

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Why that matters?
Characters do their strongest moves when they are at brink of collapsing like every time
This Asura attack is not weaker than what he would have been capable of before hakai if that is what you are pushing
Luffy was the target of Kaido and Bigmom ans been attacked more than everyone
Zoro took hakai for 1 second and using swords to block while Luffy took Kaido's club to the head
Zoro gave everything he had
Yet Luffy is more effective in base form

Learn to read. Zoro explicitly states this chaoter that his body is at its limit because of damage which means he cannot use the full brunt of his attacks without passg out which he did

And onto of this zoro wasbthe only other living person to leave a permanent scar on kaido that is even bigger than the one Oden left.

And lastly we see kaido actually shaking once he sense zoros coc.

This alludes to zoro actually coming back to face kaido since we still haven't found out bis connections to wano or him even making enma a black blade

 

[Bogard]

Luffy will never solo Kaido

Yamato will join the fight

As an emotional support maybe

 

[Lukegranders]

People still taking the kaido got stronger line out of context.

Post timeskip luffy is way stronger then pre timeskip luffy but that doesn’t mean his skin got stronger.

Odens attack still hasn’t been surpassed since he did it with two swords and nearly killed kaido with the attack and made his eyes go white

 

[Rayleigh-Sama]

BB and Imu will both be stronger than Roger was.

imu wont be a fighter imo

 

[zzShinichi]

And to think that Luffy still has 1 more powerup aka Awakening
Which imo will be touched upon in his fight against Black Beard :cheers:

 

[sanjikun]

Base Luffy. Forget Yonko level. This is PK level shit. G4 >>>> base. A KKG with CoC will KO Kaido.