Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion

[Jackteo]

You answer your question yourself, it is Luffy.

And hybrid Kaido >> any version of Queen or King, awakened or not.

I understand it's hard to accept, but as you might have noticed Queen has a lot of links with everyone who is currently on the live floor.
He promised to torture Drake and he attempted to kill Apoo and Chopper. Many pleasures and waiters there hates him.
Chopper has an insane amount of reasons to fight him, even connected to his dream, and Queen and Perospero are basically his only possible opponents. But he slapped Queen in the chapter dedicated to him and Brook should be the one avenging Pedro.

At a certain point, i was sure Sanji was going to fight Queen too and perhaps Oda was willing to draw that too. But chapter after chapter it became less and less likely.
Drake's plotline, Sanji clashing with King, King obsession on killing Momo and the scabbards and Sanji's one to save them, their fighting style, then Chopper and Apoo. Queen and Sanji have been pushed further and further.
Except for two thing:
1) Queen using technological advances weapons to fight.
2) Queen mentioning Judge

But how is Queen and Sanji using technology to fight more relevant than King and Sanji both flying and using fire?
Queen mentioned Judge, but they are both scientists, of course he knows him. We even got the confirmation Kaido was captured by Vegapunk, and Judge was his coworker. It wouldn't be hard to make Judge and Queen appear in Kaido's flashback working in the same team.
Why does a potential link weight more than actual attempts to kill somebody (Drake, Apoo and Chopper) ?

 

[BleakAsh]

Yeah, because we'll be taking a break from the fight and proceed downstairs for the rest of the matchups, if not next chapter, then the chapter after.

i think Kaido vs Luffy will go on for a long while

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Scars only happen on Oda's whim. Luffy got impaled by Crocodile, Lucci, and his side shredded by Katakuri, yet no scars. Luffy got scarred by Akainu's magma, however, Jinbei who took the brunt of the attack is clean as a whistle. I'd say this is one of the most inconsistent aspects of the story.

because scars are significant
they mean something
kaido doesnt talk anyone else but oden

 

[hedera__helix]

Yeah, because we'll be taking a break from the fight and proceed downstairs for the rest of the matchups, if not next chapter, then the chapter after.

There’s too much buildup for other Kaido interactions for this to be it.

 

[Tejas]

Akainu also wields advanced CoA and also the best offensive devil fruit in the verse.

He was capable to destroy several Whitebeard's body parts in the blink of an eye and it was calculated (by me too) that Whitebeard's CoA was probably only rather weaker than optimal since his force was still pretty devastating.

Headcanon again. Advanced CoA. LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

(sorry for rehashing I'm posing this question to rmstorm)

It just occurred to me that if there is such a thing as Advanced conqueror's haki that would nullify df powers, that would explain why Kizaru never used his df on Rayleigh, as a matter of face he just battled him with a construct of his df, ie his sword he made on the spot.

Kizaur was so pissed he vented on fodders(!) Nothing else explains this behaviour from Kizaru other than there being some type of advanced CoC that nullifies df powers

Which goes to show that the df users get subdued by the strongest CoC users, Rogers, Shanks, BM, Kaido, Rayleigh, etc. What else explains Akainuy being afraid of Wano and telling Kizaru not to go? Why didn't Roger mention admirals as posing a challenge to him? Why didnt Kaido see admirals?

Vergo was in fact the strongest marine when yonko enters the fray, because df powers go away and then you're left with just pure mogging talent, skill and power

NO ONE MOGGS VERGO

Absolute fact nibbaz

Vergo has his own independent base with no affiliation to Marine HQ which is in fact the only one marine officer with a base in the NW

Vergo had to work extremely hard to earn the attention of the fleet admiral to earn a spot at G-5

@Rmstorm you think of this?

@Peroroncino @ODIAK D.TSEGNORTS @Tejas @Fenaker etc

 

[kurohime]

Too slow? What candy piece are you smoking? :yasu:
Asura Zoro just bested Kaido in 1vs1 and the only reason why he isnt dead is his toughness, not because he is better than Zoro.
Digest that.

Kaido considers Zoro a flea.

 

[Kromage911]

Probably the biggest mistake oda ever made in the series.

Not a mistake at all, lol. The sales wouldn't be close to what they are if not for this Zoro vs Sanji discussion. This generates the most community engagement. Just like Yonko vs Admirals, Mihawk vs Shanks, etc.

 

[kurohime]

Kaido didn't fear shit he laughed at Luffy when he used Gear 3rd and after Ragnarock and now he tanked his attack like they are toys

Your tears taste so delicious. Keep 😢

 

[BleakAsh]

And hybrid Kaido >> any version of Queen or King, awakened or not.

I understand it's hard to accept, but as you might have noticed Queen has a lot of links with everyone who is currently on the live floor.
He promised to torture Drake and he attempted to kill Apoo and Chopper. Many pleasures and waiters there hates him.
Chopper has an insane amount of reasons to fight him, even connected to his dream, and Queen and Perospero are basically his only possible opponents. But he slapped Queen in the chapter dedicated to him and Brook should be the one avenging Pedro.

At a certain point, i was sure Sanji was going to fight Queen too and perhaps Oda was willing to draw that too. But chapter after chapter it became less and less likely.
Drake's plotline, Sanji clashing with King, King obsession on killing Momo and the scabbards and Sanji's one to save them, their fighting style, then Chopper and Apoo. Queen and Sanji have been pushed further and further.
Except for two thing:
1) Queen using technological advances weapons to fight.
2) Queen mentioning Judge

But how is Queen and Sanji using technology to fight more relevant than King and Sanji both flying and using fire?
Queen mentioned Judge, but they are both scientists, of course he knows him. We even got the confirmation Kaido was captured by Vegapunk, and Judge was his coworker. It wouldn't be hard to make Judge and Queen appear in Kaido's flashback working in the same team.
Why does a potential link weight more than actual attempts to kill somebody (Drake, Apoo and Chopper) ?

If sanji's goes to the roof.. Kaido's like with judge... might... ehm.. lead to things ya know

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy is not a 40 foot Dragon hybrid with the greatest durability in the entire series, weighing a couple dozen tons at least. He's 5'7, and weighs like a buck 80.

a buck 80 is kinda heavy tho
esp for 5'7

 

[bennbeckman]

of course he can tho @bennbeckman ass will swear up an down. An ability described as bypass durability, can’t actually do that. Even if he ain’t using haki

In this case u guys, gotta pay a bit more attention. Not all laws abilities bypass durability. Injection one of the few that dnt, Law the only character to damage Kaido without AcoA so far with just blunt force.
Yet can cut sea stone, ur a literally moron at this point.
“Without CoA” dnt backtrack. Which canonical as wrong as it gets, we dnt need a poll to understand the words “bypass durability” u need a dictionary

Let not self project. I mean the fact ur even her arguing. An can’t understand a simple concept like “bypassing durability”

You are an even bigger joke than King's Merienda. Anyone trying to discuss with you is like talking to a wall.

This is my last comment talking to a wall, other Zbois should follow suit, this guy will throw a fit and go on rants and bait some more

Did you call me a literal moron? Wut kind of an insult is that. By that logic there is apparantly a difference moron and literal moron too

Trafalgar_D_WallBait

 

[Kromage911]

There’s too much buildup for other Kaido interactions for this to be it.

Yamato will see him yes, in his dying moments.

 

[kurohime]

What BS is this. If that was the case they all would have blocked it. But they didn't Zoro was the only one able to block it. Not even Law was fast enough to evade it with his teleportation.

Zoro is trash, sorry. Barely semi mid low tier

 

[notAfanboy]

HAHAHA lmao.. i was enjoying this coz this is actually a very constructive and wholesome conversation... to hell with fancy words.. i had to take a quick errand to the dictionary as well.. so you helped me out here too Lol.. Thanks alot.... its not about conceding or not.. Don't put it like that it ruins the fun of things .. i am no winner.. winning against people this humble is my own loss.

thanks again

Thank you buddy, it was good to discuss things, and it is even better to find like-minded and unbiased people especially on forums. This is why I joined WG, and so far experience has been great. Looking forward to more discussions. :cheers:

 

[ErionRoronoa]

And hybrid Kaido >> any version of Queen or King, awakened or not.

I understand it's hard to accept, but as you might have noticed Queen has a lot of links with everyone who is currently on the live floor.
He promised to torture Drake and he attempted to kill Apoo and Chopper. Many pleasures and waiters there hates him.
Chopper has an insane amount of reasons to fight him, even connected to his dream, and Queen and Perospero are basically his only possible opponents. But he slapped Queen in the chapter dedicated to him and Brook should be the one avenging Pedro.

At a certain point, i was sure Sanji was going to fight Queen too and perhaps Oda was willing to draw that too. But chapter after chapter it became less and less likely.
Drake's plotline, Sanji clashing with King, King obsession on killing Momo and the scabbards and Sanji's one to save them, their fighting style, then Chopper and Apoo. Queen and Sanji have been pushed further and further.
Except for two thing:
1) Queen using technological advances weapons to fight.
2) Queen mentioning Judge

But how is Queen and Sanji using technology to fight more relevant than King and Sanji both flying and using fire?
Queen mentioned Judge, but they are both scientists, of course he knows him. We even got the confirmation Kaido was captured by Vegapunk, and Judge was his coworker. It wouldn't be hard to make Judge and Queen appear in Kaido's flashback working in the same team.
Why does a potential link weight more than actual attempts to kill somebody (Drake, Apoo and Chopper) ?

If Law and Zoro leave the rooftop then you can say goodbye to King vs Sanji.
Sanji vs Queen makes sense. But I don't think he can beat him alone. We'll probably see X-Drake + Sanji vs Queen.

 

[kurohime]

It's because he couldn't dodge it. That's why he decided to try to take out Zoro but Zoro it's too fast and deflected all of Kaido's attacks. Zoro then hit Kaido and brought him down to his knees.

Nah Kido just didn't care. He just turned and smiled. Zoro gave him something a little worse than a paper cut

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

@Jackteo
Be honest I don´t even care if Queen or King, if it is King, it would be really different and I would like it.
To make a point to your question why I believe in group fights, the thing is that Kaido himself fought over 14characters and tank lot of shit until he get his 1on1 fight and Yamato is still on the way to help Luffy.

I wouldn´t be surprise in case that we have so many characters here, who helping Sanji vs either King or Queen.
Not forget these characters are above Doffy, it would be a really insane feat if Sanji defeat one of them.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

a buck 80 is kinda heavy tho
esp for 5'7

Well the average weigh for someone that height is 133-163, but Luffy is closer to the 5'8 mark, and he's all muscle.

 

[ErionRoronoa]

Zoro is trash, sorry. Barely semi mid low tier

It's okay to cry... I know these chapters are too hard for you to take.
You must feel really bad reading these late chapters