Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion
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Ashuea isn't adcoc
Kaido didn't even give a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all.
This is similar to when:
For zoro though? We are yet to get a confirmation he truly has CoC ...before we even start saying Ashura was imbued with CoC like how Luffy/kaido do.
I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as CoC attack
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks
Look at Luffy's case:
As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC!
He surely has no adCoC.
He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!
Conclusions :
Zoro doesn't have adCoC like Kaido/Roger/Luffy/WB have!
Zoro having CoC isn't yet confirmed! For now it's just a wondering from Kaido with Zoro denying having CoC!
People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!
We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!
Kaido didn't even give a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all.
This is similar to when:
- Kaido wonders "why does his balde have Oden's presence."
- Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "
For zoro though? We are yet to get a confirmation he truly has CoC ...before we even start saying Ashura was imbued with CoC like how Luffy/kaido do.
I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as CoC attack
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.
People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks
Look at Luffy's case:
- When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
- When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
- When he unlocked CoC pre ts, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!
As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC!
He surely has no adCoC.
He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!
Conclusions :
Zoro doesn't have adCoC like Kaido/Roger/Luffy/WB have!
Zoro having CoC isn't yet confirmed! For now it's just a wondering from Kaido with Zoro denying having CoC!
People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!
We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.
We clearly see them using CoC with confirmations and proofs on panels!
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Can Oda can show me a feat against King greater than what Zoro has shown so far. Why would Oda give Zoro his best feats ever then end the arc with commander feats from King. Naturally, he needs to top what he has given Zoro, not go down.
Oda specifically point out Zoro saying this is his best he can do (in this state) to finally answer the question:
"Has Zoro been holding back?"
And he answered it now, because he plans on topping it.
Oda specifically point out Zoro saying this is his best he can do (in this state) to finally answer the question:
"Has Zoro been holding back?"
And he answered it now, because he plans on topping it.
Yes it does. You can be dumb enough to not hit someone with your sword properly but still kill them if you are strong enough.
This cawksucker...
This cawksucker...
BM is a stronger swordsman than Zoro for now.
Who do you all got in your top ten right now?
Mine is
Mine is
- Mihawk/Sakazuki. Everything Zoro can do, Mihawk can do better. Shanks became famous because he fought him.
- Mihawk/Sakazuki. I'm a believer in Sakazuki being top 3 but him being above Mihawk is questionable.
- Kaido. The strongest creature in the world deserves to be in the top 3.
- Big Mom. Seems to be Kaido's equal, but a fucking idiot. If she trained her haki and was in better physical condition I'd put her at 1.
- Shanks. The man who inspired Luffy and the one who fought Mihawk. But he is a swordsmen after all so he can't be number one. I kind of expect him to use other weapons in addition to his sword but he's a swordsmen.
- Dragon. I would have put him higher but his reaction to the news about Sabo makes him seem kind of pathetic. M.C's dad so he's going to be a total beast.
- Kuzan. Fought Sakazuki for 10 days but lost his leg and seems to be kind of depressed. Probably on par with Dragon and Shanks.
- Issho. Probably the third strongest swordsmen in the world. Very underrated, I feel like he's going to be important later in the story.
- Borsalino. Beastly character just not as relevant to the story as everyone else on the list.
- Green Bull. Probably the weakest admiral but he's an admiral.
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