Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion

[hedera__helix]

As someone who has no agenda in the Admiral vs Yonko war:

Akainu > Shanks > rest of Yonko = Aokiji > Kizaru > Fujitora/Green Bull

 

[stairs-kun]

No black lightning out of the blade means no Adv CoC. I don't know why it's so complicated for you.

Cuckakuridoodledoo has advCoC too

 

[sanjikun]

We're going to get King's flashback. Queen's flashback. Oy.... It's going to be a while before we beat Kaido.

 

[Kromage911]

Cuckakuridoodledoo has advCoC too

He doesn't, lol. When do we see black lightning coming out of his fist?

 

[Tejas]

Who do you all got in your top ten right now?

Mine is

1. Mihawk/Sakazuki. Everything Zoro can do, Mihawk can do better. Shanks became famous because he fought him.
2. Mihawk/Sakazuki. I'm a believer in Sakazuki being top 3 but him being above Mihawk is questionable.
3. Kaido. The strongest creature in the world deserves to be in the top 3.
4. Big Mom. Seems to be Kaido's equal, but a fucking idiot. If she trained her haki and was in better physical condition I'd put her at 1.
5. Shanks. The man who inspired Luffy and the one who fought Mihawk. But he is a swordsmen after all so he can't be number one. I kind of expect him to use other weapons in addition to his sword but he's a swordsmen.
6. Dragon. I would have put him higher but his reaction to the news about Sabo makes him seem kind of pathetic. M.C's dad so he's going to be a total beast.
7. Kuzan. Fought Sakazuki for 10 days but lost his leg and seems to be kind of depressed. Probably on par with Dragon and Shanks.
8. Issho. Probably the third strongest swordsmen in the world. Very underrated, I feel like he's going to be important later in the story.
9. Borsalino. Beastly character just not as relevant to the story as everyone else on the list.
10. Green Bull. Probably the weakest admiral but he's an admiral.

I chose not to rank Teach because he could literally be anywhere on the list.

Mihawk and Sakazuki must slide down 6 places to make this list accurate

 

[Zolo]

Beetle gifter have supreme CoC

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Kaido doesnt have offensive barrier Armament Coating but has Conquerors Haki coating ... they are different
Roger and WB also had both, BigMom also doesn't seem to have offensive barrier but maybe Conqueror Coating
makes things interesting to know who has which type

 

[Tejas]

As someone who has no agenda in the Admiral vs Yonko war:

Akainu > Shanks > rest of Yonko = Aokiji > Kizaru > Fujitora/Green Bull

You don't sweat bullets against a weaker opponent.

 

[Koinboin]

Wishful thinking from fans of people lacking Advance Ryou and CoC.

admirals definitely have advance ryou ..
if you are talking about zoro then :holdthisl:
He has far exceeded my expectations :cheers:

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Ashuea isn't adcoc

Kaido didn't even give a definitive answer about zoro having CoC. For now we say Zoro is a conqueror but all Kaido did was wonder "can you use CoC too?" /"do you also have CoC"
With Zoro himself not being sure about it at all.

This is similar to when:

• Kaido wonders "why does his balde have Oden's presence."

At this point Kaido didn't make sure/confirm yet that Enma belonged to Oden.

• Then a chapter later, we get him confirming "ah i see. .It's his (Oden's)sword "

Same thing when he wondered about Retainers using ryuo.. then we get confirmations from Retainers and kaido himself that they can indeed use Ryuo as Oden.

For zoro though? We are yet to get a confirmation he truly has CoC ...before we even start saying Ashura was imbued with CoC like how Luffy/kaido do.

I think Kaido mistook Zoro's ashura as CoC attack
Because after Zoro's answer...he says something else about Worstgen not even about Zoro that he truly has CoC or can use AdCoC.

People claiming Ashura is adCoC when Oda only shows someone using adCoC when their blades/attacks have haki leakage and thick sparks when they attacks


Look at Luffy's case:

• When kaido asked "ah you can also use CoC..just like Kidd" before he says that, we saw Luffy using CoC unconsciously!
• When
• When he uses adCoC, we clearly see the difference in visuals with sparks and haki leakage from his arms
• When he unlocked CoC, was using it subconsciously, we saw burst! We clearly saw visuals/panels of him using CoC!

As for me...im open to say Zoro has CoC
But the fact is that, Oda didn't do these things for Zoro!
Nothing this chapter proves 100% Zoro has CoC!
He surely has no adCoC.

He compared Retainers using ryuo to Oden's ...we firstly see them using ryuo before Kaido comments!
Compared Luffy's CoC to Kidd ... we firstly saw Luffy using CoC before Kaido comments!
When Luffy says Kaido uses AdCoC, we see kaido used it and uses it ..same with Luffy. Things are clear not ambiguous!

Conclusions :
Zoro doesn't have adCoC like Kaido/Roger/Luffy/WB have!
Zoro having CoC isn't yet confirmed! For now it's just a wondering from Kaido with Zoro denying having CoC!

People can hate or bash me but if you look at the manga...Whenever someone awakens/uses any haki or advanced haki, we clearly see the visuals! We see them using it...it isn't ambiguous!
We don't just hear "oh can you use X haki?" With no visuals , no proof except just a question.

Well I have no doubt that Zoro has finally unlocked CoC, but it's going to take time before he can advance it to the level that Luffy can now utilize it in, if he is able to at all.

But nobody is convincing me that Asura is AdCoC. Too much suspension of disbelief going into that one. Asura being linked to Sandai Kitetsu, and the cursed blades makes way more sense from a narrative standpoint, especially considering their mystique in nature, and the fact that Oda isn't going to introduce the concept of cursed blades without making them unique in some way.

 

[Zolo]

You don't sweat bullets against a weaker opponent.

Kaido is above all... how many times Oda has to repeat this

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Still 1 hour 30 minutes to the tcb scans release

 

[Tejas]

admirals definitely have advance ryou ..
if you are talking about zoro then :holdthisl:
He has far exceeded my expectations :cheers:

Where do AdmiraLs show Advanced Ryou?
LMAO. Advanced Ryou is internal destruction. And not Barrier.

 

[bennbeckman]

This is Zoro's REAL portrayal

They can try running away from it, but it won't change a thing.

But where is Sanji's CoC and why was he not on the roof?

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

Can Oden bitch boy compete with Zoro?

No, he needs an army of DJ Sanji's to compete with Zoro

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

We dont even know what WSS swordsman means at this point.......

Strongest swordsman in the world.

Who did Mihawk defeat to obtain that title? Cause At this point we know it wasn't any of the yonko, nor was it an admiral,

Shanks. Rayleigh. An unmentioned top tier.

Would have been mentioned by now if had.

No it wouldn't.

 

[Nolimittweezy]

The thing about Oden is that his offensive power is on par with admiral level characters but his defense is pathetic. Base Luffy tanked two club hits from hybrid Kaido including a named attack but he got up. Not sure how Oden vs Marco would go honestly.

Oden fought a long battle with Kaido. And it’s already been said that one slip up can cause your defeat in battle. Oden didn’t have any defenses up in that moment and Kaido went for the K.O.

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

Where do AdmiraLs show Advanced Ryou?
LMAO. Advanced Ryou is internal destruction. And not Barrier.

Ladmirals don't have. Maybe Vergo has and defeats Lackainu with it

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Oden has gone to Raftel. Zoro not.
Oden has 9 disciples. Zoro only has 2.
Oden takes a bath everyday, Zoro only once per week.
Oden has 2 children already. Zoro never sniffs pussy and only uses his dick to pee.

 

[Kenshiro11]

huh? you said Hakai having higher AP than Asura doesn’t mean anything regarding Zoro’s swordsmanship in comparison to BM’s. You contradicting yourself dumbass.

BM is a stronger swordsman than Zoro for now.

No im not, unlike you who cant get your mind straight regarding cawks wss title
Hakai is just a flying slash compared to asura who manage to produce mirror copies of yourself. Hakai is just stronger simply because of her imense strength. Not that much to do with her sword skills. I guess that statement is still not too simple for your brain huh