Character Discussion Why Vergo is a better character than Akainu

Who is a better character?


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#23
Akainu thanks Vergo every day before going to bed for keeping the New world in check by himself. :madmonk:
G-5 is the way, the truth and the life


Vergo is also the EOS opponent for Luffy who didn't get to watch the leg switch and all the cool shit Vergo did, which I figure this would be his reaction :lunazing:

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#28
Vergo and Akainu may be (and actually are) the two strongest characters in the series, but neither of them can make our dads say they’re proud of us...:pepehands::pepehands::pepehands::pepehands::pepehands::pepehands:
That’s fucking true. All they can really do at the end of the day is impart onto us the value of keeping up the mogg.

none more so than the one to truly master the colour of armament

Akainu thanks Vergo every day before going to bed for keeping the New world in check by himself. :madmonk:
Once G-5 will come to the spotlight, it will be a mogging sight. Let’s first see more of Kaido to better appreciate Vergo :myman:
EoS koby>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mihawk
apparently there is supposed to be a panel where Fujitora expresses shock when he hears of Vergo’s betrayal. If you know of this then please do tell, you seem to know your Fuji :)
 
#30
it is? if so this just proves vergo is top top tier stronger then roger for getting acknowledged by the strongest of all time, fuji.
Vergo is top tier for sure. Vergo has internal destruction haki
but lame mods closed down the thread. How many has internal CoA? Luffy got asspulled into learning it, but Rayleigh did, we don’t know for sure WB and Roger has it. It’s never implied you need penetration haki to do CoC barriers like BM did on P1. So that makes Vergo unique, One base kick (remember he switched legs) and he broke Sanji who used armament on his whole shin
 
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Vergo

> Manipulative Psychopath. He dedicated his life for his King, Doflamingo.
> I think he looks like Terminator ( he share that with Akainu ) and could very well come back as a Cyborg or via Axolotl fruit.
> His pure physical and Haki prowess is emphasized. He is a relentless strenght who come back again and again until cutted for good in half. ( He kind of share that with Akainu )
> Mini Boss behind Caesar of Punk Hasard Arc

Akainu

> Nevrotic Obsessed with "Absolute Justice" and Pirate Murder
> Probably a traumatized orphan
> His theme is Anger, his Zodiac sign is Dog, his flower is Rose and his fruit, the Magma
> Contradictory enough, he follows Gorosei orders... Until when ?
> He is too like Terminator, his body is tortured, he is slow but he regenerate and relentlessly pursue his prey. I think he will be enhanced as a living weapon via Cyborgisation.
> Fleet Admiral and one of the MC biggest foe.
> He may be on the goid side at the end of the story

Comparison between the 2

> Vergo is just another character in an Arc, a tertiary Character while Akainu is either a Primary or Secondary Character.
> Vergo is a remorless psychopath, Akainu a very flawed idealist
 
#34
1. Cucker vs cucked

Akainu is ultimately a tool and puppet for the government. All the magmabois likes to think of him as a rebel, but in truth Akainu is the Big State's best friend. The government was the one that pushed for his promotion to fleet admiral, while we know Aokiji was favoured by the marines. The marines as a whole wanted a gentler touch and more balanced guy in charge, Aokiji, while the Celestial Dragons and other people of questionable repute within the government wants to use Akainu as a tool of war. That's all he is to them, a puppet. The Gorosei pushed for Akainu's promotion yet they patronize and look down their nose at him. :arnoling:

Akainu is at the end of the day a servant of the Celestial Dragons. Thats kind of lame lol and Garp rightly declined the admiral position to have more freedom

Vergo has more freedom than even Garp. He doesnt need to suck Celestial Dragon dick like Akainu, and has a marine base thats in the thick and heat of the New world. He has 6 officers (6 warships) under his command. Garp refused the admiral position but was only a vice admiral under Marine HQ nonetheless. Vergo has more authority, freedom and presuambly even influence than Garp, otherwise Doffy would push for him to be a Vice Admiral in Marine HQ. Vergo has the biggest marine base outside of Marine HQ under his direct command (inb4, its all in the past so its HAD)

Vergo cucked the marines while Akainu is getting cucked and the shaft. "He is truly living up to his name as a dog: obedient with the occassional bark" - Seraphoenix :queenhear:

Vergo is working to undermine the WGs tyranny, while Akainu is only really workign at the behest of the WG, doing their biding and cementing their power.

What a rebel huh :doffytroll: In reality his ambition is perfectly in line with WG, his ruthlessness serves only the powerful, and you always have daddy government backing you up whatever you do :absojustice:

What an inspiring man huh :kobeha:

2. Vergo is fun while Akainu is just a pissed off guy

Akainu doesn't have any funny quirks and is just pissed off all the time. Vergo is perfectly balanced with a diehard, no-bullshit attitude that's also kneetly balanced with disarming quirks like the food stuck onto him and his false memory. He also likes to have a nice coffee break every once in a while. Did I mention the leg switch? (getting to that)

3. Vergo has style while Akainu has none


while Akainu in a similar situation has no grace and skill like Vergo, only pisspoor reactions to a dying old man :doffytroll:



4. Vergo=rising; Akainu=descending

Vergo keeps rising for every chapter with increasing hype and power, while Akainu is getting shafted by everyone and their mother after adCoC :hihihi:

Vergo is the most lucrative stock you can invest in. He keeps going from "veteran level" all the way to fucking yonko level

Leg switching mogger while Akainu is afraid of a country Kaido invaded with 200 men :ronalaugh:

5. Showmanship of Vergo while Akainu can't match the chadness of Vergo
The amazing leg switch and leg swipe of Vergo that will go down in history, while Akainu has the hand-in-pockets feat, that just ain't nothing to compare in skill and grace.

And that is just some of the reasons, this will suffice perfectly to make my point

No I forgot one important point, namely that Akainu is a scared of Shanks and weak willed to the likes of Vergo the chad.

CoC they say :leohah::leohah::leohah:



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Its just like blasphemy to compare Vergo to anyone in the verse tbh, i mean i dont dislike Akainu, he is strong in power and in character, he sticks to his principles, he just go by the principle of anything goes to uphold justice.

But yea even Akainu or even WSC Kaidou will and have to proceed with caution if they wanna mess with that style of Vergo's grooooove of hyper-extending his waist to dodge Smoker's jutte. like this is how you do it Matrix, Sanji's leg is fine after BM punched it at WCI but Vergo dancing around while having deadpanned expression was on the verge of breaking Sanji's bone? The right ankle's groove is not to be messed with
 
#37
Vergo

> Manipulative Psychopath. He dedicated his life for his King, Doflamingo.
> I think he looks like Terminator ( he share that with Akainu ) and could very well come back as a Cyborg or via Axolotl fruit.
> His pure physical and Haki prowess is emphasized. He is a relentless strenght who come back again and again until cutted for good in half. ( He kind of share that with Akainu )
> Mini Boss behind Caesar of Punk Hasard Arc

Akainu

> Nevrotic Obsessed with "Absolute Justice" and Pirate Murder
> Probably a traumatized orphan
> His theme is Anger, his Zodiac sign is Dog, his flower is Rose and his fruit, the Magma
> Contradictory enough, he follows Gorosei orders... Until when ?
> He is too like Terminator, his body is tortured, he is slow but he regenerate and relentlessly pursue his prey. I think he will be enhanced as a living weapon via Cyborgisation.
> Fleet Admiral and one of the MC biggest foe.
> He may be on the goid side at the end of the story

Comparison between the 2

> Vergo is just another character in an Arc, a tertiary Character while Akainu is either a Primary or Secondary Character.
> Vergo is a remorless psychopath, Akainu a very flawed idealist
First, it's funny you mentioned the terminator, my alter ego wrote this dissertation you would do well to read :) https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...destined-to-come-back-greater-than-ever.8932/

I don't think Vergo is a psychopath like Akainu who might however in fact be a fullblown psychopath of epic proportions. He of course truly lacks any remorse and empathy, just like the VA Onigumo who ordered the bombardment of a ship full of 1,000 marines, Akainu is like that, he can rationalise anything as everything goes for his mad ideology; the ideology itself is the very expression of antisocial behaviour, the most adamant enforcers like Akainu and Onigumo living out their obsession with absolute justice and takes it extreme levels of uncivilised behaviour, like their whole life comes down to a spreedsheat on how to perk up the numbers of "absolute justice" points on their ledger, where any act even at the cost of thousands of innocent lives and untold misery is a worthwhile deal for them; Akainu is really concerned about his image (narcissism); superficial charm, yes, he surely has that, as he is manipulative and smoothtalking, like he was with Squard; Akainu doesn't as of yet have any gf or female companion, even though he is the FA, which might suggest he is unable to feel love and form proper relationships, thus Akainu seems to be the guy that goes around philandering and sportfucking, breaking hearts whereever he goes. :kata: ; Akainu's theme is also anger, as you say, symbolised by the dog and of course magma, which if you combine those two traits makes for an extremely impulsive guy, as even though he is shown to calculatingly evil and even cautious (scared of Wano ninjas), when faced with the prospect of hunting down pirates (which is his obsession) he becomes completely eratic and impulsive, like we saw in MF, even to the point where he would rather mindlessly follow that compulsion rather than stay behind and protect MF and the marines against BB that was going to sink the island. :absojustice:

And Vergo by the way was the main vilain while Caesar was the secondary villain. Vergo was the main obstacle and was the symbolic roadblock that guarded the NW from ushering into turmoil (the terminator guarding the established status quo if you will if you read my thread) while Caesar was at the end of the day, like his moniker says, a clown in the whole spectacle. And it's crazy how much Law respected and feared Vergo's abilities.
Don’t mention me you creditless fraud :kata:
Shut your clit you little dork
 
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First, it's funny you mentioned the terminator, my alter ego wrote this dissertation you would do well to read :) https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...destined-to-come-back-greater-than-ever.8932/

I don't think Vergo is a psychopath like Akainu who might however in fact be a fullblown psychopath of epic proportions. He of course truly lacks any remorse and empathy, just like the VA Onigumo who ordered the bombardment of a ship full of 1,000 marines, Akainu is like that, he can rationalise anything as everything goes for his mad ideology; the ideology itself is the very expression of antisocial behaviour, the most adamant enforcers like Akainu and Onigumo living out their obsession with absolute justice and takes it extreme levels of uncivilised behaviour, like their whole life comes down to a spreedsheat on how to perk up the numbers of "absolute justice" points on their ledger, where any act even at the cost of thousands of innocent lives and untold misery is a worthwhile deal for them; Akainu is really concerned about his image (narcissism); superficial charm, yes, he surely has that, as he is manipulative and smoothtalking, like he was with Squard; Akainu doesn't as of yet have any gf or female companion, even though he is the FA, which might suggest he is unable to feel love and form proper relationships, thus Akainu seems to be the guy that goes around philandering and sportfucking, breaking hearts whereever he goes. :kata: ; Akainu's theme is also anger, as you say, symbolised by the dog and of course magma, which if you combine those two traits makes for an extremely impulsive guy, as even though he is shown to calculatingly evil and even cautious (scared of Wano ninjas), when faced with the prospect of hunting down pirates (which is his obsession) he becomes completely eratic and impulsive, like we saw in MF, even to the point where he would rather mindlessly follow that compulsion rather than stay behind and protect MF and the marines against BB that was going to sink the island. :absojustice:

And Vergo by the way was the main vilain while Caesar was the secondary villain. Vergo was the main obstacle and was the symbolic roadblock that guarded the NW from ushering into turmoil (the terminator guarding the established status quo if you will if you read my thread) while Caesar was at the end of the day, like his moniker says, a clown in the whole spectacle. And it's crazy how much Law respected and feared Vergo's abilities.

Shut your clit you little dork

I can be wrong but :


A Psychopath function really differently than the Non-Psychopath.
What are their characteristics ?

> Manipulativeness : Psychopath see everything around them as pure tool,so they spend their lives learning how to perfectly feat in a place where they hide their true self to be able to do what they want without raising suspicion.

Here Vergo is the one who endorse this behavior in the way he tricks everybody, villages and Marine Base, in thinking he is a nice guy when in reality he doesn't have the slightest care for them.

On the other hand, everybody knows Akainu is a bitch and apart from the occasional manipulation ( Squardo, Ace ), he doesn't seems to hide his true-self.

> Prey and Predator relationship : Because the Psychopath thinks everybody function like he does and ( mostly ) doesn't have feeling for anybody, and maybe because he us bored, he thinks about everyone around him as a potential prey.

Both of them pursues Targets, but while Akainu focus his effort on Ace and Luffy, Vergo focus his on everybody around ( to further hide his identity ).

> Sadism : pleasure of seeing the prey having trouble. Okay... pleasure of seeing the prey suffering.

Vergo greatly shows that while Akainu doesn't seem to care much about that.

> Fear : Psychopaths feel fear but not the same as the others, from some data I collected on the net, they seems to rarely ever feel it.

Vergo didn't seem to fear anything.
Akainu was afarid multiple times : against Whitebeard, particularly against Shanks.

> Nihilism ? : Psychopath have trouble having Morals engagement and distinguishing Good from Evil. Can Psychopath hope for grand ideals and live accordingly ?

Because Akainu does fight for Morals, even if flawed ones while Vergo does seems to focus on Doflamingo pleasure...

All of that seems to indicate that while Vergo ( and Doflamingo ) seems to be pure psychopath, Akainu most likely is kind of Narcissistic with Grandeur Delires and Grand Ideals, but is able to function kind of normaly otherwise.
 

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#40
I can be wrong but :

A Psychopath function really differently than the Non-Psychopath.
What are their characteristics ?

> Manipulativeness : Psychopath see everything around them as pure tool,so they spend their lives learning how to perfectly feat in a place where they hide their true self to be able to do what they want without raising suspicion.

Here Vergo is the one who endorse this behavior in the way he tricks everybody, villages and Marine Base, in thinking he is a nice guy when in reality he doesn't have the slightest care for them.

On the other hand, everybody knows Akainu is a bitch and apart from the occasional manipulation ( Squardo, Ace ), he doesn't seems to hide his true-self.

> Prey and Predator relationship : Because the Psychopath thinks everybody function like he does and ( mostly ) doesn't have feeling for anybody, and maybe because he us bored, he thinks about everyone around him as a potential prey.

Both of them pursues Targets, but while Akainu focus his effort on Ace and Luffy, Vergo focus his on everybody around ( to further hide his identity ).

> Sadism : pleasure of seeing the prey having trouble. Okay... pleasure of seeing the prey suffering.

Vergo greatly shows that while Akainu doesn't seem to care much about that.

> Fear : Psychopaths feel fear but not the same as the others, from some data I collected on the net, they seems to rarely ever feel it.

Vergo didn't seem to fear anything.
Akainu was afarid multiple times : against Whitebeard, particularly against Shanks.

> Nihilism ? : Psychopath have trouble having Morals engagement and distinguishing Good from Evil. Can Psychopath hope for grand ideals and live accordingly ?

Because Akainu does fight for Morals, even if flawed ones while Vergo does seems to focus on Doflamingo pleasure...

All of that seems to indicate that while Vergo ( and Doflamingo ) seems to be pure psychopath, Akainu most likely is kind of Narcissistic with Grandeur Delires and Grand Ideals, but is able to function kind of normaly otherwise.
Akainu is probably an epitome of absoluteness. He is a perfectionist and as a matter of fact he kills whatever opposes the principles of absolute justice let alone threatening them.

He is not an instinctive man however, it depends on the situation whether he opposes or not, as he preferred no to send Kizaru.
 
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