General & Others Proof Zoro>Luffy, and that hate against Zoro is at an all time high.

#42
He didn't say that
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He didn't say this
What do you think ?
:suresure:
• Luffy is a captain lmao .

And let's not take this thing beyond that

Luffy and Jinbe, who’s the better Helmsman?
Luffy and Brook, who’s the better Musician?
Luffy and Franky, who’s the better Shipwright?
Luffy and Robin, who’s the better Archaeologist?
Luffy and Chopper, who’s the better Doctor?
Luffy and Sanji, who’s the better Cook?
Luffy and Usopp, who’s the better Sniper?
Luffy and Nami, who’s the better Navigator?

You answered NOT Luffy didn’t you.

Now what we have here :
• Oda shows that Luffy himself is considered to be a fighter :


• Luffy as a fighter ( fighting style ) and Zoro , who’s the better Fighter ?
• Now let's move to another Topic :
This is what Oda sees Straw hats brain have as their ideas or fetish !!!


• Luffy : MEAT .
• ZORO : STRENGTH .

• Zoro is considered by Oda to present Strength and better Fighter .:beckmoji:
• Now oda answered the question already btw @stairs-kun @nik87 @Aknolagon @Zowo when Luffy and Zoro wondered who has the better fighting style meaning the strongest when Luffy is a fighter but Zoro is a better Fighter considering his Role so Luffy tards just stop it :suresure:
 
#44
Luffy is the captain and a fighter. The guy can multi-task, lol.


Only thinks about meat, doesn't train as much as Zoro and is still stronger. Just think about it. His potential is the highest ever. :steef:
Nah fam. Sanji is the real deal here. He's a cook first and a fighter second. Doesn't obsessed over strength and doesn't train. Still rival Zoro and Luffy in term of strength without using his hands or a weapon or a devil fruit.

Man, imagine if Sanji start using his hands and wield a sword and have a devil fruit?:usoprice:
 
#45
Zoro is the better fighter .
Source : Oda + Manga


Only thinks about meat, doesn't train as much as Zoro and is still stronger. Just think about it. His potential is the highest ever
Who is better fighting Style Swordman or Fighter ?

Oda :
Luffy : Captain
Zoro : Fighter

Luffy :
I can't be better than a cook or a navigator someone who Oda gave a job in the ship .

Zoro : Fighter and Luffy is a fighter .
Conclusion :
Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy .
Keep living in delusion
 
#51
Zoro is the better fighter .
Source : Oda + Manga



Who is better fighting Style Swordman or Fighter ?

Oda :
Luffy : Captain
Zoro : Fighter

Luffy :
I can't be better than a cook or a navigator someone who Oda gave a job in the ship .

Zoro : Fighter and Luffy is a fighter .
Conclusion :
Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy .
Keep living in delusion
Zoro being the combatant doesn't mean that he's a better fighter than Luffy. That's like saying Sanji's CoO is better than Luffy's or Zoro's CoA is better than Luffy and we know both ain't true. Affinity and valuation are different.
 
#52
I'm not the one living in delusion my man, you are. :zosleepy:
• Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

All of these are from Oda and his manga that's why i said keep living in that bubble of urs
 
#53
Zoro being the combatant doesn't mean that he's a better fighter than Luffy. That's like saying Sanji's CoO is better than Luffy's or Zoro's CoA is better than Luffy and we know both ain't true. Affinity and valuation are different.
Also, Lucky Roo is the combatant of Shank’s crew.
Are we saying Lucky Roo > Shanks.

cmon bruh
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• Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

All of these are from Oda and his manga that's why i said keep living in that bubble of urs
Zoro literally has the same title as Lucky Roo.
 
#56
Zoro being the combatant doesn't mean that he's a better fighter than Luffy. That's like saying Sanji's CoO is better than Luffy's or Zoro's CoA is better than Luffy and we know both ain't true. Affinity and valuation are different.
Don't give me ur headcanons here ; Oda is clear asf here :
• Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

You say CoA and CoO and this and that ;
Zoro clashed with Kaido in 20 seconds and scarred him for life while being nerfed and with a little stamina ; Kaido was mad and still respected him while he said you did enough and this scar would remain mean while Luffy couldn't even do that damage to Kaido who appeared Clean and disappointed in him he desrespected the fuck outta him lmao
 
#57
no he is one because he is always downplaying zoro
Where did I downplay Zoro??? I think he’s like first commander level.
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Don't give me ur headcanons here ; Oda is clear asf here :
• Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

You say CoA and CoO and this and that ;
Zoro clashed with Kaido in 20 seconds and scarred him for life while being nerfed and with a little stamina ; Kaido was mad and still respected him while he said you did enough and this scar would remain mean while Luffy couldn't even do that damage to Kaido who appeared Clean and disappointed in him he desrespected the fuck outta him lmao
:pepeke:
 
#60
Luffy on paper is a total beast and you can understand what Garp thought he'd become. But like Law, that's on paper. Luffy:

+ Outstanding in hand to hand. He can get the better of highly trained fighters like Blueno or an extremely well rounded combatant like Doflamingo without the training or experience they have. Lucci was a notch better, but he's also a dedicated genius. At this point I'm not sure anyone but maybe Garp, Sengoku, and Sentomaru have the hands to go against Luffy.

+ Monster genetics. Pound for pound Luffy might already be the physically strongest, even if his powers also help with that.

+ Magical immunity to blunt force and electric (minks, Ener, Big Mom) combined with the overall durability of rubber. He also negates any size disadvantage by virtue of stretching.

+ A great aptitude for learning. When he does put in work it pays off as well as possible. Extremely well rounded Haki skills

+ A fearless disposition. He'll pretty much never lose to his own uncertainty and won't allow defeat to keep him down

- he's reckless and cocky. He'll lose to his own impulses. Because defeat rarely ever matters, he's not all that inclined to grow from it and fight to avoid it. This primary flaw is bigger than any one positive trait because it can undo his progress. He'll get slept by guys he should beat: Observation failed against Caesar and Apoo, CoA alone doesn't beat anyone too strong. This very chapter Kaido explicitly calls him on getting ahead of himself and it's his whole approach to life in a nutshell.

Whereas Zoro is the beauty of fundamentals. Well honed skill, well rounded Haki, solid tactician with a good mindset in combat. There are probably more fight match ups Luffy wins because he fights like a kangaroo on steroids (with the privilege of magical and learned immunities such as his poison resistance) but Zoro is far less likely to lose in fights where he can win.
 
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