Character Discussion Great Monster Duo and clear hierarchy presented by Oda
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Notice how upon meeting both Yonkos:
Sanji simply oversaw them announcing something related to their respective plans.
Zoro, however, immediately schooled both of them.
Conclusion: Oda's way of saying that anybody who follows the manga and still thinks "Zoro = Sanji" or "Sanji > Zoro" is really kidding themselves. :cheers:
Sanji simply oversaw them announcing something related to their respective plans.
Zoro, however, immediately schooled both of them.
Conclusion: Oda's way of saying that anybody who follows the manga and still thinks "Zoro = Sanji" or "Sanji > Zoro" is really kidding themselves. :cheers:
Yamato >> Jimbe by feats.
Jimbe has been stalemating a Zoan form Tobi Roppo for a few hours.
Base Yamato oneshot one.
IMO it's currently
Luffy >= Zoro > Yamato >> Sanji >= Jimbe.
Luffy gets the benefit of the doubt over Zoro due to being able to willfully clad himself in Haoshoku.
Sanji gets the benefit of the doubt over Jimbe because Jimbe's paired with a Tobi Roppo and it seems like Sanji will be paired with Queen.
When all is said and done, at the end of the arc I expect it to be:
Luffy > Zoro > Yamato > Sanji > Jimbe.
Jimbe has been stalemating a Zoan form Tobi Roppo for a few hours.
Base Yamato oneshot one.
IMO it's currently
Luffy >= Zoro > Yamato >> Sanji >= Jimbe.
Luffy gets the benefit of the doubt over Zoro due to being able to willfully clad himself in Haoshoku.
Sanji gets the benefit of the doubt over Jimbe because Jimbe's paired with a Tobi Roppo and it seems like Sanji will be paired with Queen.
When all is said and done, at the end of the arc I expect it to be:
Luffy > Zoro > Yamato > Sanji > Jimbe.
This is true regarding Zoro and luffy but lets not get ahead of ourselves all sanji has done is stall Pageone,No decent fight since the timeskip,I would rate Judgeβs son below franky since Sanjiβs attacks have no power,The little Fire attacks couldnβt even break a fucking door,For now Franky >> Judgeβs Son. Also worth mentioning that Judgeβs son doesnt really have much worth in Odaβs eyes as well,Since using Sanji as a common plot ploy for Hyping Other characters is a very recurring theme.So lets wait until he proves it,For now Franky >>> Sanji.
Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are all used as hypetools, the difference is how they're presented and how they act through situations. Zoro didn't get anything too relevant before Wano aside from cutting Pica in Dressrosa, which is meeh
Franky > Sanji is complete cap, Franky is having an apparently high diff against Sasaki (who supposedly is stronger than Page One, even if he is, the difference must be almost non existant), but Page One only got hurt by Sanji, Luffy and Big Mom, the amount of effort that Sanji put against Page One isn't even near to what Franky is doing against Sasaki for several chapters
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Franky > Sanji is complete cap, Franky is having an apparently high diff against Sasaki (who supposedly is stronger than Page One, even if he is, the difference must be almost non existant), but Page One only got hurt by Sanji, Luffy and Big Mom, the amount of effort that Sanji put against Page One isn't even near to what Franky is doing against Sasaki for several chapters
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Lol no.
Yamato oneshots Zoan Ulti (her most durable form) with a Thunder Bagua:
Ulti later recovers (albeit a chapter later):
As we can see from the above, Page One is tending to her and requests for medical assistance:
When Ulti wakes up she is shown to be coughing up blood for several pages:
Page One and the Beast Pirates fodder even commented on how much damage she took:
Apoo did not:
Yamato oneshotting Zoan Ulti is more comparable to Zoro oneshotting Apoo, and Apoo recovered faster than Ulti did (and he did it without taking lasting damage or the advantage of Ancient Zoan recovery).
Yamato oneshots Zoan Ulti (her most durable form) with a Thunder Bagua:
Ulti later recovers (albeit a chapter later):
As we can see from the above, Page One is tending to her and requests for medical assistance:
When Ulti wakes up she is shown to be coughing up blood for several pages:
Page One and the Beast Pirates fodder even commented on how much damage she took:
Apoo did not:
- Take Luffy down for several minutes
- Cause Luffy to require medical assistance
- Leave Luffy coughing up blood even after he recovers
Yamato oneshotting Zoan Ulti is more comparable to Zoro oneshotting Apoo, and Apoo recovered faster than Ulti did (and he did it without taking lasting damage or the advantage of Ancient Zoan recovery).
Sorry, since when Luffy is a monster?
@Cinera
Apoo is clearly YC1 level for two-shotting Luffy(was 2 hits, remember?). He healed fast from Zoro(read Yonko level) because he is nerfed by Enma. Maybe when Zoro used Ashura against Kaido he finally used 100% of Enma and that shit sword stopped to be a nerf. But Shusui is still much better and the raid would be already succeed if Zoro had it in his hands. Kaido wouldn't even had lifted up Onigashima.
@Cinera
Apoo is clearly YC1 level for two-shotting Luffy(was 2 hits, remember?). He healed fast from Zoro(read Yonko level) because he is nerfed by Enma. Maybe when Zoro used Ashura against Kaido he finally used 100% of Enma and that shit sword stopped to be a nerf. But Shusui is still much better and the raid would be already succeed if Zoro had it in his hands. Kaido wouldn't even had lifted up Onigashima.
