Questions & Mysteries Luffy didn't fight for + 20 minutes
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I roll my eyes at Luffy slander smh. Yall gotta be insecure to go out your way to slander the MC for fighting the big boss.
Luffy has been fighting Kaido for A FEW DOZEN MINUTES
Forget all about that Chopper shit, ain’t no correlations.
Now few dozens means MINIMUM 12 Minutes. Maximum 4 dozen ~ 48 Minutes.
Common math dictates few equals 0-4
Half equals 5
Late equals 6-9/10
By common sense math Luffy has been fighting 12,24,36 minutes. 12 is ruled out since it says FEW dozen. Meaning more than 1 dozen. So AT LEAST 2 dozen.
2 Dozen means 24 minutes ~ at the least.
Im using Viz translations. If y’all wanna discredit this, maybe y’all are reading Two Piece.
Anyways, slandering Luffy is mad funny. What the MC do
relatively non-specific span of time vs a plot-relevant detailed and specified passage of time.
• secondly :
This is what i said to the dude :
It's a Few of 10 min ; and this is me taking this relative time seriously won't change the fact that it didn't depass the time i posted in the title of the thread which is the objective i debunked :
There is no +20 min .
• Thirdly ; this is a msg for Luffy Wankers not even legit luffy stans to sit down who according to them , fighting Kaido for +10 minutes means you are his equal
Lmao ; you won't find someone on Yonko level getting mocked by Kaido and getting destroyed in some relatively minutes
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the fact that you can't give luffy the benefit of the doubt is certainly disturbing, even the panel says " a few dozen minutes later" so that's over 20 ultimately..no point in beating a dead horse.
i'd rather stick with Viz translations
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i'd rather stick with Viz translations
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Chopper didn't say he has exactly 10minutes of the 30 left. He said he has less than 10 minutes left which could range anywhere between 1 and 9 minutes left.
Why should we prioritize one information over the other when both could be correct anyway?
Chapter 1012 says that a few dozen of minutes went by
A few dozens minutes starts at 24 minutes+
In the new Chopper information, as stated, this is what it says
> Transformation limit extended to 30minutes
> Chopper having less than 10 minutes left
This means that since Chopper first transformed in MP, it lasted anywhere between 21 and 29minutes
So as mentioned both informations can be correct, with the most accurate timeframe looking more in the 24minutes+ range
As for this part
What you forget is that one piece characters move at superhuman speed. All of this could have happened in less than 1 minute.
Hell Kid even said Zoro's hakai feat only lasted a second
Why should we prioritize one information over the other when both could be correct anyway?
Chapter 1012 says that a few dozen of minutes went by
A few dozens minutes starts at 24 minutes+
In the new Chopper information, as stated, this is what it says
> Transformation limit extended to 30minutes
This means that since Chopper first transformed in MP, it lasted anywhere between 21 and 29minutes
So as mentioned both informations can be correct, with the most accurate timeframe looking more in the 24minutes+ range
As for this part
What you forget is that one piece characters move at superhuman speed. All of this could have happened in less than 1 minute.
Hell Kid even said Zoro's hakai feat only lasted a second
Chopper pointed out how he has less than 10 minutes left.
So it could be either 3 mins, 5 mins or 8 mins, we don't know.
Yet, several minutes already passed when Momonosuke commented about the fact how well Luffy fought Kaido. So 15 - 20 mins are indeed possible. I have no idea what you're exactling trying to disprove here? How does it matter whether Luffy fought Kaido for +10 mins or 20 mins when he equally matched him before?
That's no good argument bro.
If we assume that the high and top tiers move with massively hypersonic(+) or possibly relativistic speed, doing these moves within 2 or 3 minutes ain't farfetched.
Remember how long Goku and Freezer actually fought although they just had 5 mins till the planet explodes? It's similar to this, and yes - MHS+ and relativistic - close to LS - IS hella fast.
So it could be either 3 mins, 5 mins or 8 mins, we don't know.
Yet, several minutes already passed when Momonosuke commented about the fact how well Luffy fought Kaido. So 15 - 20 mins are indeed possible. I have no idea what you're exactling trying to disprove here? How does it matter whether Luffy fought Kaido for +10 mins or 20 mins when he equally matched him before?
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That's no good argument bro.
If we assume that the high and top tiers move with massively hypersonic(+) or possibly relativistic speed, doing these moves within 2 or 3 minutes ain't farfetched.
Remember how long Goku and Freezer actually fought although they just had 5 mins till the planet explodes? It's similar to this, and yes - MHS+ and relativistic - close to LS - IS hella fast.
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If it was below 5 min he would say it's below 5 min the range is between 10 to 6 min
Japanese words say : a number of 10 min which according to @T.D.A 10 min and above it can be 11 or 12 and above that .
That means choppa fought for 20 to 24 min not 29 min if there is only 3 min left of the time he would have said below 5 min
And this time involves all of those events i mentioned above which means Not Only Luffy fought in that time there is also the events before Hakai and Hakai and post Hakai .
No one can say for sure this is just an assumption i based my words to give the events that happened before and hakai and post Hakai around 10 min which should be reasonable .and if we did the math .
20 to 24 min - 10 min = it's 10 to 14 min
And like i said to Red admiral like 10 min like 14 like even 15 min nothing changes the but of this thread which is Luffy didn't fight for +20 or +30 min like some ppl said here
According to Choppa ; he said less than 10 min it should be from 9 to 6 min .
If it is below 5 min he would have said below 5 min .
The time according to choppa is between 20 min to 24 min you wouldn't say when the remaining time is below 5 min it's less than 10 min isn't it when you talk precisily ?
As i said to Red admiral ; you would have to take those minutes of Hakai and before Hakai and post hakai from the time mentioned which should be around 10 min so in the end it's 10 to 14 min not + 20 min which is the objective of this thread as the title mentions
He said moment ; according to stephen paul the word << second >> he used doesn't give a concrete time like you think .
Japanese words say : a number of 10 min which according to @T.D.A 10 min and above it can be 11 or 12 and above that .
That means choppa fought for 20 to 24 min not 29 min if there is only 3 min left of the time he would have said below 5 min
And this time involves all of those events i mentioned above which means Not Only Luffy fought in that time there is also the events before Hakai and Hakai and post Hakai .
No one can say for sure this is just an assumption i based my words to give the events that happened before and hakai and post Hakai around 10 min which should be reasonable .and if we did the math .
20 to 24 min - 10 min = it's 10 to 14 min
And like i said to Red admiral like 10 min like 14 like even 15 min nothing changes the but of this thread which is Luffy didn't fight for +20 or +30 min like some ppl said here
According to Choppa ; he said less than 10 min it should be from 9 to 6 min .
If it is below 5 min he would have said below 5 min .
The time according to choppa is between 20 min to 24 min you wouldn't say when the remaining time is below 5 min it's less than 10 min isn't it when you talk precisily ?
As i said to Red admiral ; you would have to take those minutes of Hakai and before Hakai and post hakai from the time mentioned which should be around 10 min so in the end it's 10 to 14 min not + 20 min which is the objective of this thread as the title mentions
Chopper didn't say he has exactly 10minutes of the 30 left. He said he has less than 10 minutes left which could range anywhere between 1 and 9 minutes left.
Why should we prioritize one information over the other when both could be correct anyway?
Chapter 1012 says that a few dozen of minutes went by
A few dozens minutes starts at 24 minutes+
In the new Chopper information, as stated, this is what it says
> Transformation limit extended to 30minutes
> Chopper having less than 10 minutes left
This means that since Chopper first transformed in MP, it lasted anywhere between 21 and 29minutes
So as mentioned both informations can be correct, with the most accurate timeframe looking more in the 24minutes+ range
As for this part
What you forget is that one piece characters move at superhuman speed. All of this could have happened in less than 1 minute.
Hell Kid even said Zoro's hakai feat only lasted a second
Why should we prioritize one information over the other when both could be correct anyway?
Chapter 1012 says that a few dozen of minutes went by
A few dozens minutes starts at 24 minutes+
In the new Chopper information, as stated, this is what it says
> Transformation limit extended to 30minutes
This means that since Chopper first transformed in MP, it lasted anywhere between 21 and 29minutes
So as mentioned both informations can be correct, with the most accurate timeframe looking more in the 24minutes+ range
As for this part
What you forget is that one piece characters move at superhuman speed. All of this could have happened in less than 1 minute.
Hell Kid even said Zoro's hakai feat only lasted a second
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Well, since I didn't find anything else which contradicts it, I guess you are right about this one.
So either Chopper has 9 or 6 mins left.
Sure, but at the end I don't know how japanese people differentiate between these statements - that's why I pointed this out.
Well, 20 mins are still possible if we assume that the rooftop battle did not last for more than 4 mins.
The fact that the Hakai stuff apparently happened in a blink of a second underlines it even more imo. And as I said, OP characters move extremely fast to the point in which lightning ain't even fast enough.
So either Chopper has 9 or 6 mins left.
Sure, but at the end I don't know how japanese people differentiate between these statements - that's why I pointed this out.
Well, 20 mins are still possible if we assume that the rooftop battle did not last for more than 4 mins.
The fact that the Hakai stuff apparently happened in a blink of a second underlines it even more imo. And as I said, OP characters move extremely fast to the point in which lightning ain't even fast enough.
Mosterpoint used before hakai.
Monsterpoint 30 min - 10 min left , alredy 20 mins gone.
All those shits happen in this 20 mins
lets say 20 mins start from - Hakai , blocking - luffy fought with hybrid kaido and git knocked out for 4th time - trapping bigmom - - bigmom fall- cutting cloud - bigmom make a hole - kaido about kill KO weakass luffy - Zoro perform ashura - Luffy back-on-feet - 1v1 going. If compare these shits its already reached 20 mins. So all we can say its 30 secs- 2min that fought with kaido 1v1 and got defeated as usuall.
:cheers:
as a result He fought with kaido lower than 2 MIN
Monsterpoint 30 min - 10 min left , alredy 20 mins gone.
All those shits happen in this 20 mins
lets say 20 mins start from - Hakai , blocking - luffy fought with hybrid kaido and git knocked out for 4th time - trapping bigmom - - bigmom fall- cutting cloud - bigmom make a hole - kaido about kill KO weakass luffy - Zoro perform ashura - Luffy back-on-feet - 1v1 going. If compare these shits its already reached 20 mins. So all we can say its 30 secs- 2min that fought with kaido 1v1 and got defeated as usuall.
:cheers:
as a result He fought with kaido lower than 2 MIN
Luffy Fought with Kaido lower than 30 Seconds - 2 Mins.
Monsterpoint - 30 MiN / 10 MINs Remaining
Only 20 MINs gone since Blokcing HAKAI
Lol
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Choppa said from 30 min there is only 10 min left ( 9 to 6 min ) .
So at best :
24 min
And we have :
24 min = what happened before Hakai + Hakai event + post Hakai + Luffy fighting Kaido .
Yeah Luffy didn't fight + 20 min
The japanese words said this :
In japanese It means a number of 10 min ( 10 min and above )
A- Choppa words :
1- 30 min only less than 10 min left .
2- Less than 10 min = 9 to 6 min or he would have said less than 5 min
1 + 2 = 24 min
B- Choppa started fighting before Hakai with MP heck even before we saw the supernovas complaining about Kaido and big mom which is considered btw an off screen and we get only the result .
C- Japanese words said :
A number of 10 min
• 11 min and above but in english they used dozen.
A+B+C = Luffy didn't fight for +20 min
Choppa said from 30 min there is only 10 min left ( 9 to 6 min ) .
So at best :
24 min
And we have :
24 min = what happened before Hakai + Hakai event + post Hakai + Luffy fighting Kaido .
Yeah Luffy didn't fight + 20 min
The japanese words said this :
In japanese It means a number of 10 min ( 10 min and above )
A- Choppa words :
1- 30 min only less than 10 min left .
2- Less than 10 min = 9 to 6 min or he would have said less than 5 min
1 + 2 = 24 min
B- Choppa started fighting before Hakai with MP heck even before we saw the supernovas complaining about Kaido and big mom which is considered btw an off screen and we get only the result .
C- Japanese words said :
A number of 10 min
• 11 min and above but in english they used dozen.
A+B+C = Luffy didn't fight for +20 min
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You got serious issues dude. This is not how people treat each other. Zoro fan or Sanji fan, this is very low of you. Everytime you’re around you go ballistic. Go outside and get some fresh air mate. It’s not good to be so angry all the time
In this case the Japanese means nothing. We go by Viz and that’s that. Viz proves you wrong. No need to cite original source material when the official English says otherwise
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• You didn't debunk shit lmao ; in japanese it's a number of 10 min which means 10 min and above and this is :
relatively non-specific span of time vs a plot-relevant detailed and specified passage of time.
• secondly :
This is what i said to the dude :
It's a Few of 10 min ; and this is me taking this relative time seriously won't change the fact that it didn't depass the time i posted in the title of the thread which is the objective i debunked :
There is no +20 min .
• Thirdly ; this is a msg for Luffy Wankers not even legit luffy stans to sit down who according to them , fighting Kaido for +10 minutes means you are his equal
Lmao ; you won't find someone on Yonko level getting mocked by Kaido and getting destroyed in some relatively minutes
• Panel in japanese says a number of 10 mins which means at least 10 min and above , and this a relatively no specfic time Vs plot oriented time in the end like i said to Red admiral 10 min or 12 or even 15 min ; Luffy didn't fight +20 or +30 which is the title of the thread + Luffy wankers said he is a Yonko level because he did that and Kaido himself debunked it
relatively non-specific span of time vs a plot-relevant detailed and specified passage of time.
• secondly :
This is what i said to the dude :
It's a Few of 10 min ; and this is me taking this relative time seriously won't change the fact that it didn't depass the time i posted in the title of the thread which is the objective i debunked :
There is no +20 min .
• Thirdly ; this is a msg for Luffy Wankers not even legit luffy stans to sit down who according to them , fighting Kaido for +10 minutes means you are his equal
Lmao ; you won't find someone on Yonko level getting mocked by Kaido and getting destroyed in some relatively minutes
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• Panel in japanese says a number of 10 mins which means at least 10 min and above , and this a relatively no specfic time Vs plot oriented time in the end like i said to Red admiral 10 min or 12 or even 15 min ; Luffy didn't fight +20 or +30 which is the title of the thread + Luffy wankers said he is a Yonko level because he did that and Kaido himself debunked it
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