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It all come together:
Dragon: Kaido
Pheonix: Marco
White Tiger: Yamato(Most like)
Turtle: ??
All devine beast in Wano make sense, so the turtle beeing wano himself is a great though. Overall it seems like Wano as what we seeing now doesn´t be 800years ago.
Open the Wano borders? I think it mean the whole stone wall around Wano:
Luffy will destroy the stone wall and Wano borders going open again!!^^
Dragon: Kaido
Pheonix: Marco
White Tiger: Yamato(Most like)
Turtle: ??
All devine beast in Wano make sense, so the turtle beeing wano himself is a great though. Overall it seems like Wano as what we seeing now doesn´t be 800years ago.
Open the Wano borders? I think it mean the whole stone wall around Wano:
Luffy will destroy the stone wall and Wano borders going open again!!^^
It all come together:
Dragon: Kaido
Pheonix: Marco
White Tiger: Yamato(Most like)
Turtle: ??
All devine beast in Wano make sense, so the turtle beeing wano himself is a great though. Overall it seems like Wano as what we seeing now doesn´t be 800years ago.
Open the Wano borders? I think it mean the whole stone wall around Wano:
Luffy will destroy the stone wall and Wano borders going open again!!^^
Dragon: Kaido
Pheonix: Marco
White Tiger: Yamato(Most like)
Turtle: ??
All devine beast in Wano make sense, so the turtle beeing wano himself is a great though. Overall it seems like Wano as what we seeing now doesn´t be 800years ago.
Open the Wano borders? I think it mean the whole stone wall around Wano:
Luffy will destroy the stone wall and Wano borders going open again!!^^
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This is exactly what I'm thinking, when I was looking up those 4 divine beasts/gods or whatever, I saw a 5th one being mention of a "yellow dragon/serpent/snake" which fits Orochi, the yellow bellied serpent lol. It would symbolise him having a strangehold over Wano with its harsh isonalisationist policy and his tyrannical rule over it so for long.
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Tortoise and Snake 亀と蛇
In Chinese culture, especially under the influence of Taoism (道教) the tortoise is the symbol of heaven and earth, its shell compared to the vaulted heaven and the underside to the flat disc of the earth. The tortoise was the hero of many ancient legends. It helped the First Chinese Emperor to tame the Yellow River, so Shang-di rewarded the animal with a life span of Ten Thousand Years. Thus the tortoise became a symbol for Long Life. It also stands for immutability and steadfastness.
We often see stone grave steles on a stone tortoise or reliquaries standing on it. The tortoise is also regarded as an immortal creature. As there are no male tortoise -- as the ancient believed -- the female had to mate with a snake. Thus the tortoise embracing a snake became the protector symbol of the north, but since the word "tortoise" was taboo in Chinese, it was referred to as the "dark warrior" (genbu 玄武 ) and finally became Zhenwu (in Chinese Taoism), one of the four protector gods of the four directions. The symbol of Zhenwu, the Protector God of the North, as tortoise and snake (or tortoise entwined by a snake) dates back to the third century BC. For more on Taoism, see this online catalog about "Taoism and the Arts of China."
https://immortalmountain.wordpress.com/glossary/chinese-bestiary/
https://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/ssu-ling.shtml
Tortoise and Snake 亀と蛇
In Chinese culture, especially under the influence of Taoism (道教) the tortoise is the symbol of heaven and earth, its shell compared to the vaulted heaven and the underside to the flat disc of the earth. The tortoise was the hero of many ancient legends. It helped the First Chinese Emperor to tame the Yellow River, so Shang-di rewarded the animal with a life span of Ten Thousand Years. Thus the tortoise became a symbol for Long Life. It also stands for immutability and steadfastness.
We often see stone grave steles on a stone tortoise or reliquaries standing on it. The tortoise is also regarded as an immortal creature. As there are no male tortoise -- as the ancient believed -- the female had to mate with a snake. Thus the tortoise embracing a snake became the protector symbol of the north, but since the word "tortoise" was taboo in Chinese, it was referred to as the "dark warrior" (genbu 玄武 ) and finally became Zhenwu (in Chinese Taoism), one of the four protector gods of the four directions. The symbol of Zhenwu, the Protector God of the North, as tortoise and snake (or tortoise entwined by a snake) dates back to the third century BC. For more on Taoism, see this online catalog about "Taoism and the Arts of China."
You're talking about the map below, right? You're probably right but I personally think that this map is just from Kinemon and others' point of view to tell us how the hidden waterfall passage to Mogura port works. It can be a totally different case for all we know. Wano's climate and everything still needs to be explained. It's an interesting theory nonetheless imo.
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I genuinely though we were gonna get this with Big Mom with when they fought her on the ocean back at the end of WCI, then with her falling into the ocean early Wano and then her falling off Onigashima towards the ocean. Given how "indestructible" she seems to be, how unstoppable she is, it would be a great way to get rid of her once and for all.
Now Luffy is also falling into the ocean again like he did in the beginning of Wano, but he's gonna be fine somehow of course, plot armour/being the MC will save him regardless.
We also had Jack, but thankfully he didn't die due to being a fishman apparently, his character would have been seriously wasted if he died that easily and quickly. It's not a lot better right now but there's still a vain hope Jack might just get some love by Oda sooner or later, very vain hope at this point.
I do always enjoy the idea of Blackbeard being the one to drown and die though. The guy who "cheated" the rule of not being to eat more than 1 DF somehow, the great "Teach the Cheat" himself. Either the 2 DF is a rule is a lie by the WG or BB's abnormal body that Marco mentioned and that Zoro and Luffy seemed to notice back at Jaya is the reason ofc.
It's much more likely the latter.
Given how BB and his crew fixate on DFs so much and BB is trying to use multiple DFs, imagine if having more DFs makes him more ironically vulnerable to the ocean? A pirate who also wants to be the Pirate King and is a Pirate Emperor and Admiral of his own Pirate Fleet being increasingly more vulnerable and afraid of the ocean would be hilariously ironic and poetic. A pirate forced to stay on land more and more and has to avoid sailing for increased risk of drowning?
It kinda reminds me of how Captain Hook was terrified of the crocodile trying to finish him off, to eat the rest of him?
We are gonna see someone with a DF drown and die and it's gonna be extremely haunting too. I've even toyed with the idea of it happening to Akainu somehow, him dying and drowing in a desperate fit of rage and helplessness.
Now Luffy is also falling into the ocean again like he did in the beginning of Wano, but he's gonna be fine somehow of course, plot armour/being the MC will save him regardless.
We also had Jack, but thankfully he didn't die due to being a fishman apparently, his character would have been seriously wasted if he died that easily and quickly. It's not a lot better right now but there's still a vain hope Jack might just get some love by Oda sooner or later, very vain hope at this point.
I do always enjoy the idea of Blackbeard being the one to drown and die though. The guy who "cheated" the rule of not being to eat more than 1 DF somehow, the great "Teach the Cheat" himself. Either the 2 DF is a rule is a lie by the WG or BB's abnormal body that Marco mentioned and that Zoro and Luffy seemed to notice back at Jaya is the reason ofc.
It's much more likely the latter.
Given how BB and his crew fixate on DFs so much and BB is trying to use multiple DFs, imagine if having more DFs makes him more ironically vulnerable to the ocean? A pirate who also wants to be the Pirate King and is a Pirate Emperor and Admiral of his own Pirate Fleet being increasingly more vulnerable and afraid of the ocean would be hilariously ironic and poetic. A pirate forced to stay on land more and more and has to avoid sailing for increased risk of drowning?
It kinda reminds me of how Captain Hook was terrified of the crocodile trying to finish him off, to eat the rest of him?
We are gonna see someone with a DF drown and die and it's gonna be extremely haunting too. I've even toyed with the idea of it happening to Akainu somehow, him dying and drowing in a desperate fit of rage and helplessness.
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