General & Others World building: good or bad ?

#1
Short answer:
Absolutely horrible … I will go as far to say there is no real world but only Luffy world.

detailed answer:

1- everyone joining Luffy Fan Club;

- Hancock joined the fan club and it ruined her Potential…same for kuma the tyrant potential …jinbe … crocodile potential …mihawk potential

- supernova joining Luffy fan club… oda didn’t even bother to try…at least you could have left drake stay under cover you garbage writer but no he seems to be insisting on letting ALL of them joining Luffy fan club

- revolutionary army is under Luffy command

- Almost all marines joining the fan club …except for Sakazuki, kizaru & greenbull who should be joining in the end after they know truth about world government…SO MUCH for that complex civil war in the marines ranks and then having their OWN agenda…oda the potential crusher

- big mom pirates joining Luffy fan club…it all started with katakuri and soon big mom gonna join the fan club after she becomes O-Lin…
whitebeard & red hair pirater under Luffy command is not enough for oda

- germa 66 potential…joined Luffy fan club at the end

- ALL wano samurai joined Luffy fan club … oda couldn’t even let kyoshiro & ashura remain antagonists

- Yamato potential… joined the Luffy fan club

- another million tribes, countries , pirates etc joined the fan club

2- LUFFY LUFFY LUFFY

- everything is around Luffy and everything is for Luffy and he is shoved in our faces 24/7 and it doesn’t help when his character is so trash; no development, meet oppressed princess > gives him meat> tells him story of the oppressed people > doesn’t understand shit> Beat the villain with asspull > feast > repeat

- not only his grandfather is one of the top marine but his father is the leader of the revolutionary army …his brother is the son of pirate king and top commander of whitebeard and he came back again to shit on the revolutionary army as sabo

3- off paneling the world

-payback war ? Off paneled… reverie ? Off paneled … baltigo incident ? Off paneled… big mom pirates vs fish men and germa 66 ? Off paneled… and the long lost continues

4- extreme focus on FILLER characters for milking and dragging purposes instead of the established character like supernova and fleshing them out

- Rebecca and her garbage plot was nightmare…the dwarfs running around … the filler samurai like kawamatsu took 100 chapters to reveal only to turn out to be the most irrelevant character introduced in wano …punk hazard kids running around… smile fodders etc etc etc


5- despite the big world the plot is LITERALLY is the same every arc…oh the irony:

- enter new island

- meet the oppressed princess (nami clone)

- nearing calamity; birdcage… alabasta bom…fishman island ship …hunger pangs big mom… onigashima

- sanji meets the girl then leaves the crew then gets fooled by her then she became an ally

- Luffy loses round 1 & 2 but wins the third

- zoro vs second strongest…sanji vs third strongest

- party and feast

- repeat


SO YEAH.
that’s my opinion.
Where is that epic who will rule the seas war ?
Because all I see is straw hats vs beast pirates with everything else being ignored.
 
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#5
Nice excuse

One Piss Worldbuilding is more worse as Harry Potter worldbuilding
What execuse? Baltigo/Payback war can be made into a BB centered Movie someday, never mentioned Worldbuilding
But compared to other shounen OP world building shit on them, whole Naruto revolves around 5 villages conflicting did nobody thing what was happening in the outside world in Naruto
 
#7
What execuse? Baltigo/Payback war can be made into a BB centered Movie someday, never mentioned Worldbuilding
But compared to other shounen OP world building shit on them, whole Naruto revolves around 5 villages conflicting did nobody thing what was happening in the outside world in Naruto
And one piece is better lmao ?

oda throwing plots he established for Hundred of chapters such as Kidd revenge against kaido and big mom revenge against Luffy to the nearest garbage can ONLY to have the spam match up fourmla speaks volumes

it’s not world building when all characters in wano work under Luffy and they get off paneled as well.
 
#8
And one piece is better lmao ?

oda throwing plots he established for Hundred of chapters such as Kidd revenge against kaido and big mom revenge against Luffy to the nearest garbage can ONLY to have the spam match up fourmla speaks volumes

it’s not world building when all characters in wano work under Luffy and they get off paneled as well.
Kidd revenge? Kidd should be grateful that Kaido kept him alive. Big Mom revenge should be against Morgans not Luffy lmao.
Law had the biggest reason to get revenge since doflamingo killed his father figure, and he was fine letting Luffy do the job.
 
#10
Actually is not World Building. OP only has a big world. And that's it. The only moment it was really a World Building was all the scenario about Teach vs Ace that leads to Marineford. Besides that it seems the whole World is stop waiting for Luffy to come a do something interesting in their lifes.


Look at Oden's flashback. Roger needed Oden because he was the only person that could read Poneglyphs for him. What about Ohara? Roger travelled all island, he didn't know Ohara people could read poneglyphs?
Ohara, 800 years after Void Century reading Poneglyphs. No one ever left the place and made family around the world?
Wano, only Kozuki family knows how to read? Again, no one is teaching others how to do it?
WG are not interested in Poneglyphs? Where was the Red Poneglyphs before Yonkos puts their hands on them? Why WG didn't had them?

Mera Mera no Mi, suppose to be powerful Logia. No Supernova interested on it? No Yonko besides Teach? No WB's remaining pirates? Marines/WG didn't sent someone really capable of winning that tournament?
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Kidd revenge? Kidd should be grateful that Kaido kept him alive. Big Mom revenge should be against Morgans not Luffy lmao.
Law had the biggest reason to get revenge since doflamingo killed his father figure, and he was fine letting Luffy do the job.
BM revenge against Morgan makes no sense. He just wrote the events. Luffy is doing all that stuff.
Kidd is not Law. Law made an alliance with Luffy. Kidd didn't.
 
#12
What execuse? Baltigo/Payback war can be made into a BB centered Movie someday, never mentioned Worldbuilding
But compared to other shounen OP world building shit on them, whole Naruto revolves around 5 villages conflicting did nobody thing what was happening in the outside world in Naruto
Again,what Worldbuilding?A bunch of Islands with stupid and irrelevant plot and foddercast nobody cares?

The Manga is about Luffy and thats your "Worldbuilding".
 
#14
Dunno if I would go so far as to say that the world building is bad but I would say that folk overrate it.

Oda is creative and he certainly creates varied and exotic places with some inspiration from real life locations (e.g. Water 7 is Venice on steroids and Alabasta is Egypt). With that said, being creative is not the same as being consistent.

There are occasionally odd moments that just do not make much sense within the context of the verse.

For example, the ignorance regarding devil fruits from the East Blue populace is baffling considering that nearly every big name, top tier character in the verse has a devil fruit and has their faces plastered on either Bounty Posters or a newspaper franchise that covers the whole globe.

Everyone in East Blue gets Luffy's bounty poster regardless of whether they live in the back arse of nowhere like the Dadan Family or Syrup Village. They should know of the Yonko/Admirals along with their devil fruit powers, that stuff is common knowledge.

Another oddity is when nearly everyone during Jaya Arc claims that the possibility of Sky Island existing is a complete fantasy. Come Sky Island Arc, Gan Fall casually knows what Blue Sea dwellers are and talks of other routes from the Grand Line to the White Sea.

Again, why is there colossal public ignorance in regards to the existence of any Sky Islands when there are known routes to them along with globe spanning information services?

A lot of Oda's world just is not interconnected. Each island might as well be it's own universe considering how self contained they are.

Oda also has this habit of needlessly expanding the lore of his verse even when it adds nothing. Case in point, Xebec.

For over 20 years, it was a fact that the big names of the Old Era were Roger, Shiki and Newgate with Roger being the greatest among them.

900+ chapters and 20 years later and Oda spontaneously drops Xebec out of nowhere as a rival to Roger (who already had three rivals) and as the original Captain of Newgate, Shiki, Kaido and Linlin which just makes so little sense considering the personalities of these characters demand that they be independent. It also takes a bit of the "legendary" sheen off of these characters knowing that they were subordinates to some other bloke before they became Captains.

Unless Xebec ends up being Oda's version of Madura (which is a bad idea in itself) then there was absolutely no reason to introduce a character like Xebec this late into the story since all he does is degrade the portrayal of already well established legendary characters.

Oda simply likes endlessly expanding the lore of his verse regardless of if it actually adds anything to it.
 
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