General & Others Akainu fought 7+ billion worth of bounties all on his own

[Red Admiral]

And I'm lowballing it

Marco = 1.374 000 000

Vista = 1b+

Izou = 510m and he is an average commander, Curiel had better portrayal than him at MF, Izou might even be the WEAKEST commander.

10 other commanders with an average of 500m = 5 billions

Crocodile = 81 million but frozen bounty

Andre = NW captain unknown bounty, former WB commander so probably a 300m+ bounty

Kaido : DEFEATED 9 +izu level fighters without a lasting scar at his base form
Akainu : STOOD in front of WBP and defeat 1 of them? not even that ... not to mention he had an army at his back

Kaido Hype > > Akainu's

 

[Just a member]

Going by this line of logic: Shanks could knock unconscious the whole Gincorde plaza with the 100000 fodders of Hody. Now let's say each of them has a bounty of 1 M (Higuruma had 8 M so this is lowballing the Hody fodders a lot). At this point you do 1000000 x 100000 and you have 100 B total bounty destroyed by Shanks stare.

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

That's great but if Kaido can one shot someone with a bounty higher than any of them then one Thunder Bagua can probably finish half of them

Papakuzi literally killed 550 million Ace and almost kill 430 billion Jinbei with a single Magma punch, should've kill 5 billion WB if he wasn't protected by plot armor and break 400 billion Luffy's spirit
Papakuzi Magam punch > Koido Thunder Bagua
Unless you believe Luffy, Law, injured Zoro and the scabbards would've survive Papakuzi Magma punch

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

No one said they weren’t doing anything lol.

All we said is that there are nowhere even close to 100K of them, and the Division Commanders also had fodder helping them, so the fodders cancel each other out.

The fodder argument is just a filibuster Yonko can argument designed to destroy a legitimate argument that they have no chance of winning.

Not saying Akainu had 100k Marines backing him up at that moment. I was pointing out that the Marine forces in Marineford totaled 100k, and it's absurd to claim that with that many Marines on the battlefield that Akainu was "Solo".

 

[Red Admiral]

Going by this line of logic: Shanks could knock unconscious the whole Gincorde plaza with the 100000 fodders of Hody. Now let's say each of them has a bounty of 1 M (Higuruma had 8 M so this is lowballing the Hody fodders a lot). At this point you do 1000000 x 100000 and you have 100 B total bounty destroyed by Shanks stare.

Going by this line of logic: Shanks > Marine + Teach

he stood in front of them as well

p.s
oh wait ... this one might end up true

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Why is it so hard for Admiral fanboys to understand that Akainu had help from half of the Marines?

If you are considering Fodder Marines that were helping then you may also not ignore the Fodder WBP that were helping commanders,
Fodders goes to Fodders
Akainu goes to Commanders....and also defeats a commander while doing so

 

[T.D.A]

Do you think Zoro could've block combined attack of 2 admirals?

Of course he could

 

[Red Admiral]

Akainu goes to Commanders....and also defeats a commander while doing so

he was fine afterwards tho .. and a gun man ... so not that great in close fight

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

he was fine afterwards tho .. and a gun man ... so not that great in close fight

he was defeated while being backed up by 13 other commanders, and the gunman should stay far and he knows it, if he was far then it was either Akainu was too fast for him or Akainu used ranged attack...btw the gunman was fighting on par with Gecko Moriah close range

 

[Shiroyru]

If you are considering Fodder Marines that were helping then you may also not ignore the Fodder WBP that were helping commanders,
Fodders goes to Fodders
Akainu goes to Commanders....and also defeats a commander while doing so

1. The Marines have much more fodder
2. The Marines aren’t all fodder

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

Not saying Akainu had 100k Marines backing him up at that moment. I was pointing out that the Marine forces in Marineford totaled 100k, and it's absurd to claim that with that many Marines on the battlefield that Akainu was "Solo".

The term solo is, like I said, more a reference to the fact that he was effectively by himself. Any fodder that Akainu may have been seen with, are canceled out by the Division Commanders fodder who were also present.

Like somebody else already said, Garp and Roger also had nameless Marines helping them against Rox, who also had many other Pirates helping them aside from just the core 5 that we know. But nobody ever brings this up because it’s irrelevant to the overall message Oda was trying to send: that Garp and Roger are incredible.

Jozu also had fodder helping him against Aokiji, but nobody ever brings that up because again, it’s irrelevant to the point that Aokiji was shown to be massively stronger than Jozu.

So bringing up the 12 fodder helping Akainu vs the Division Commanders + fodder is irrelevant when the point that Oda wants us to understand is that Akainu by himself was fighting equally against (and debatably even defeating) an entire Yonko crew while he was also wounded.

 

[Shiroyru]

The term solo is, like I said, more a reference to the fact that he was effectively by himself. Any fodder that Akainu may have been seen with, are canceled out by the Division Commanders fodder who were also present.

Like somebody else already said, Garp and Roger also had nameless Marines helping them against Rox, who also had many other Pirates helping them aside from just the core 5 that we know. But nobody ever brings this up because it’s irrelevant to the overall message Oda was trying to send: that Garp and Roger are incredible.

Jozu also had fodder helping him against Aokiji, but nobody ever brings that up because again, it’s irrelevant to the point that Aokiji was shown to be massively stronger than Jozu.

So bringing up the 12 fodder helping Akainu vs the Division Commanders + fodder is irrelevant when the point that Oda wants us to understand is that Akainu by himself was fighting equally against (and debatably even defeating) an entire Yonko crew while he was also wounded.

Sorry but the Marines vastly outnumber the WBP. You’d think an Admiral/Marine fanboy would know this

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

Sorry but the Marines vastly outnumber the WBP. You’d think an Admiral/Marine fanboy would know this

Against the Division Commanders, the Pirates had far more people present at that particular battlefield.

You’d think any human would a functioning brain and healthy eyes would know this

 

[Shiroyru]

Against the Division Commanders, the Pirates had far more people present at that particular battlefield.

You’d think any human would a functioning brain and healthy eyes would know this

What the hell are you talking about. The WBP had 5k or less fodders. The Marines had 100k fodders, now tell me Lee, what is 100k divided by 2?

 

[God Buggy]

The term solo is, like I said, more a reference to the fact that he was effectively by himself. Any fodder that Akainu may have been seen with, are canceled out by the Division Commanders fodder who were also present.

Like somebody else already said, Garp and Roger also had nameless Marines helping them against Rox, who also had many other Pirates helping them aside from just the core 5 that we know. But nobody ever brings this up because it’s irrelevant to the overall message Oda was trying to send: that Garp and Roger are incredible.

Jozu also had fodder helping him against Aokiji, but nobody ever brings that up because again, it’s irrelevant to the point that Aokiji was shown to be massively stronger than Jozu.

So bringing up the 12 fodder helping Akainu vs the Division Commanders + fodder is irrelevant when the point that Oda wants us to understand is that Akainu by himself was fighting equally against (and debatably even defeating) an entire Yonko crew while he was also wounded.

Talking about chapter 578, Oda doesn't even bother drawing a single fodder marine in the big panel where Akainu is in front of the commanders, Crocodile and all the people behind them as well etc. And in the next page, it's noted how Akainu and the commanders are fighting.

Like...

On the second page of 579 the marines are actually given the order to split and pursue the WB pirates, all of that in the midst of BB causing an earthquake where marines start falling left and right. A few pages later we have the marines backing Akainu up (who has taken down Curiel) and briefly after he gets stopped by Coby.

B-but Akainu didn't clash against all of these guys by himself

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

1. The Marines have much more fodder
2. The Marines aren’t all fodder

1: The WBP have Crocodile Backing them up
2: WBP arent all fodder, there might've been allied captains there too beside their crews

 

[MonsterKaido]

What the hell are you talking about. The WBP had 5k or less fodders. The Marines had 100k fodders, now tell me Lee, what is 100k divided by 2?

WB pirates had 1670 members lol

 

[fanboy]

And Sanji will feed 7 billion+ worth of bounty all on his own end of Wano.

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

What the hell are you talking about. The WBP had 5k or less fodders. The Marines had 100k fodders, now tell me Lee, what is 100k divided by 2?

An irrelevant question from an irrelevant troll, since Akainu did not have half of the Marines helping him lol.

If you're referring to the order for the Marines to split into two, the order for half of the Marines was to pursue Luffy, not to engage the Division commanders. The Division Commanders were being stalled by Akainu alone, so the fodder Marines did not need to engage them in order to bypass them completely and attack Jinbe/Buggy/Law. Which is exactly what Kizaru and Aokiji did. Neither of them engaged the Division Commanders, they just went straight for Luffy since Akainu alone was mopping up the Division Commanders.

Talking about chapter 578, Oda doesn't even bother drawing a single fodder marine in the big panel where Akainu is in front of the commanders, Crocodile and all the people behind them as well etc. And in the next page, it's noted how Akainu and the commanders are fighting.

Like...

On the second page of 579 the marines are actually given the order to split and pursue the WB pirates, all of that in the midst of BB causing an earthquake where marines start falling left and right. A few pages later we have the marines backing Akainu up (who has taken down Curiel) and briefly after he gets stopped by Coby.

B-but Akainu didn't clash against all of these guys by himself

That's because initially, Akainu was completely alone against the Division Commanders and still winning. The area of the ice that Akainu was standing had only been frozen moments before by Aokiji, meaning there were no Marines present to assist Akainu until after the order was given. And like I said, only about a dozen or so Marines actually showed up to help Akainu whereas the Whitebeard Pirates had almost the entirety of their fodder helping them.

 

[God Buggy]

That's because initially, Akainu was completely alone against the Division Commanders

Yep.