One Piece Chapter 1018: Jinbe vs. Who’s Who
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For the "drawing error", no, go read One Piece. Once the defensive action is done, they turn off Haki. Read this very chapter, itself.
Correlation does not imply causation. If it was lightning by itself. If it was the panel by itself. if was SFX by itself. You would have a point.
Put all four together in one, and I think your comment is nonsensical.
I mean, with this argument, a panel where Sanji uses black lightning and has the SFX of CoC and fodders falling down and him saying "Princely Aura" would be enough for you to dismiss it as haki.
Put another way, what is your 'lose' condition? Every argument must have a win and lose condition. If you don't have a lose condition, you aren;t arguing, you're just waiting for me to be tired and go away?
My lose condition would have been Tekkai being used without Haki appearing, which I should have typed into that thread. Or someone saying, "That's not Haki, that's Tekkai." But again, we've seen the opposite. Heck, if Oda wanted to make it so that Haki and Teakki were not confused, he would say: "Tekkai's just a physical thing, but Haki makes it harder."
What is yours?
Those aren't incompativle tbh. We could have half a chapter set up. And yes, I think Ussop needs a win. Even Nami got one. Maybe he defeats Apoo? Snipers don't need to hear you.
Correlation does not imply causation. If it was lightning by itself. If it was the panel by itself. if was SFX by itself. You would have a point.
Put all four together in one, and I think your comment is nonsensical.
I mean, with this argument, a panel where Sanji uses black lightning and has the SFX of CoC and fodders falling down and him saying "Princely Aura" would be enough for you to dismiss it as haki.
Put another way, what is your 'lose' condition? Every argument must have a win and lose condition. If you don't have a lose condition, you aren;t arguing, you're just waiting for me to be tired and go away?
My lose condition would have been Tekkai being used without Haki appearing, which I should have typed into that thread. Or someone saying, "That's not Haki, that's Tekkai." But again, we've seen the opposite. Heck, if Oda wanted to make it so that Haki and Teakki were not confused, he would say: "Tekkai's just a physical thing, but Haki makes it harder."
What is yours?
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Those aren't incompativle tbh. We could have half a chapter set up. And yes, I think Ussop needs a win. Even Nami got one. Maybe he defeats Apoo? Snipers don't need to hear you.
Lol. Does Jinbei not have ears? All Jinbei had to say was '"I know this. these are the six powers." There is no reason for Jinbei to say Tekkai and say "this".
And what do you mean there was no focus on Jinbei's arm? What is in that panel instead of Jinbei and his arm?
How did Who's Who block the Rankyaku? Which limb did he use? Where is the impact? SFX is a joke right? Where's the SFX? You're the joke, lol
And what do you mean there was no focus on Jinbei's arm? What is in that panel instead of Jinbei and his arm?
How did Who's Who block the Rankyaku? Which limb did he use? Where is the impact? SFX is a joke right? Where's the SFX? You're the joke, lol
Nah Oda doesn't repeat things. He makes the point that this attack penetrates, and then he doesn't duplicate because he trusts the reader
Especially that second one, that’s right in the middle of the Madara barrage, we’ve got a good view of Jinbei’s forearm which doing all the blocking, and there’s nothing that looks like the attacks are actually getting through
That’s what it actually looks like when Hardening has been breached and there’s blood
Say me what is the different between this and this:
This is literally liquid blood, not just a impact clash as Oda show, Jinbe was bleeding after the Shigan Madara.
Look at the pistol, you can clearly see bleed is coming from WsW finger, meaning he pierce Jinbe.
That is exactly my point, Kata didn´t use it before chapter 883 and he use it again in 894/895 where he though that Luffy was at his lvl.
You can clearly see their give a adv hardening version, with Kata use in the past and Jinbe in current chapter.
Or why WsW finger didn´t break two whole pages, he could pierce him and didn´t hadn´t any problem, but then Jinbe activate his adv hardening and we literally get a similar page as with Luffy, both screaming because of hitting someone with adv haki.
You can clearly see that Jinbe has two lvl of CoA, the normal full body haki(with Vergo and Pica use) and then with he and Kata use.
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Two very different situations there though. Kyros is getting ripped to shreds there, that’s obvious, there’s blood everywhere, whereas here the attack doesn’t just get blocked by Jinbei’s Haki, it actually breaks WW fingers, and Jinbei doesn’t look any different after the attack than he does before. And at no point when Oda’s zooming in on Jinbei do we see any ssign of the attack getting through, any spitting of blood, any of the attacks penetrating Jinbei, even any sign that he has been damaged
Especially that second one, that’s right in the middle of the Madara barrage, we’ve got a good view of Jinbei’s forearm which doing all the blocking, and there’s nothing that looks like the attacks are actually getting through
That’s what it actually looks like when Hardening has been breached and there’s blood
Especially that second one, that’s right in the middle of the Madara barrage, we’ve got a good view of Jinbei’s forearm which doing all the blocking, and there’s nothing that looks like the attacks are actually getting through
That’s what it actually looks like when Hardening has been breached and there’s blood
The impact frames or whatever are below.
That said. Good chapter, agree to disagree
We have Luffy using Adv CoA without blackening his arm (another draw error), next.
Lose condition -> WsW saying Tekkai before using any Rokushiki technique combined with Haki (except Tekkai by itself).
For now, he used Tekkai with only that Fang bite + Haki. With the Shigan + Haki he didnt say Tekkai.
If in the next chapters he Tekkai + Shigan, or Tekkai + Rankyaku and at the same time he uses Hardening, then that would mean Tekkai = Haki.
Until then, he used a combination of Haki + Tekkai since he specified "Tekkai" in that move.
Yes, there is a reason. Which you are ignoring constantly. The Rankykau bouncing back at WsW and cutting the pillar behind him. Meaning he used it, otherwise he would have been injured since he was in the attack's path.
Already explained about the panel of Jinbei and his arm.
You don't need to block with your limbs with Tekkai since all the body becames hard as steel and we know that WsW can do it while moving from this chapter. So he does not need to make any pose for it or block with his limbs.
Why would Jinbei take hits for free when he can defend succesfully from the start?
You are not making any sense. He is not that type of fighter.
I explained two possible reasons about that.
No, if you want validity on the Luffy argument, bring something similar to that, which was exactly drawn with Kaido again.
Lose condition -> WsW saying Tekkai before using any Rokushiki technique combined with Haki (except Tekkai by itself).
For now, he used Tekkai with only that Fang bite + Haki. With the Shigan + Haki he didnt say Tekkai.
If in the next chapters he Tekkai + Shigan, or Tekkai + Rankyaku and at the same time he uses Hardening, then that would mean Tekkai = Haki.
Until then, he used a combination of Haki + Tekkai since he specified "Tekkai" in that move.
Yes, there is a reason. Which you are ignoring constantly. The Rankykau bouncing back at WsW and cutting the pillar behind him. Meaning he used it, otherwise he would have been injured since he was in the attack's path.
Already explained about the panel of Jinbei and his arm.
You don't need to block with your limbs with Tekkai since all the body becames hard as steel and we know that WsW can do it while moving from this chapter. So he does not need to make any pose for it or block with his limbs.
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Why would Jinbei take hits for free when he can defend succesfully from the start?
You are not making any sense. He is not that type of fighter.
I explained two possible reasons about that.
No, if you want validity on the Luffy argument, bring something similar to that, which was exactly drawn with Kaido again.
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I think fussing about details isn't going to alter the notion that if WsW is truly out Jinbe outright dominated him complexively.
He took some of WsW's attacks like a boss. The most impressive to me was the Rankyaku eaten in such an astounding way.
Demon Tile Fist might have devastated him and this has to be seen.
I personally think that Jinbe probably didn't lose some blood after Shigan Madara but it would have been an insignificant amount expecially in One Piece terms. And WsW finger broke for a reason. I would not focus on it too greatly.
He took some of WsW's attacks like a boss. The most impressive to me was the Rankyaku eaten in such an astounding way.
Demon Tile Fist might have devastated him and this has to be seen.
I personally think that Jinbe probably didn't lose some blood after Shigan Madara but it would have been an insignificant amount expecially in One Piece terms. And WsW finger broke for a reason. I would not focus on it too greatly.
That you can clearly see blood in one whereas the other you need to circle impact marks and dirt
That Lucci’s attack did damage to Luffy whereas not only did WW attack fail to damage Jinbei, it actually ended up breaking his own fingers
That you can see in the first panel, where it’s more zoomed in and there’s detail, that Jinbei’s face and forearm are clean, while previously in the exact same chapter we saw that this is what it looks like when there’s blood on Hardening
Look at that first panel, where you’ve circled… something... where’s the blood meant to be coming from, Jinbei’s hair?
That Lucci’s attack did damage to Luffy whereas not only did WW attack fail to damage Jinbei, it actually ended up breaking his own fingers
That you can see in the first panel, where it’s more zoomed in and there’s detail, that Jinbei’s face and forearm are clean, while previously in the exact same chapter we saw that this is what it looks like when there’s blood on Hardening
Look at that first panel, where you’ve circled… something... where’s the blood meant to be coming from, Jinbei’s hair?
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