One Piece Chapter 965 Spoilers Discussion

[Red Admiral]

There's difference between Roger being WSS and having the title of WSS

Like I said, no person has ever been called WSS before Mihawk and unlike Zoro who we know has to beat Mihawk to become WSS, we've never heard of anyone Mihawk had to beat...

See until there is proof that the title of WSS existed before Mihawk, I will not say Roger had it...

But as of now since the title exists in current time, It directly means that Mihawk is he swordsman who can defeat all other swordsmen in battle since Zoro has to defeat all other swordsmen including Mihawk to get that title

Do you understand what I mean? Roger did not have the title of WSS because it didn't exist as far as we know. This has no earing on what it actually means right now whennit exists because at no point has Zoro ever cried about Fujitora having Gravity powers or Pica having stone powers or whoever the fuck. Zoro beats all swordsmen whichever way they fight or with whatever shit they use to supplement their swordsmanship from devil fruits to haki to being born with extra limbs or being born gigantic or they havig weird weapons or even being the corpse of some legendary samurai...whatver fucking thing Oda gives Zoro's opponents doesn't change the fact that Zoro has to beat them to be WSS. Not out smart them. Not out skill them. Zoro just has to win.

this is a FUCKING STORY!!!!!!

if some one be some thing ... Oda will tell us


There's difference between Roger being WSS and having the title of WSS


is just a cheap dodge form my logical and legit point

 

[Kejon]

Wasn't it mentioned that Ryuuma had the title during his era??? am not sure though

Yes Ryuuma definitely had the title.

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WSS doesn't mean anything. It's just a title, it's worthless honestly. Mihawk has shown nothing that puts him on the level of Shanks, and especially not Roger. Vista>Mihawk.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Wasn't it mentioned that Ryuuma had the title during his era??? am not sure though

Monsters isn't canon... People seem to misunderstand this point

 

[HA001]

Monsters isn't canon... People seem to misunderstand this point

It is.

 

[Red Admiral]

Lmfao pathetic. How old is roger there. Is he just carrying the sword for no reason. The desperation is beautiful.

sigh ...

first be civil
2nd ... I said 100 times ... ROGER IS A SWORDSMAN

but being a swordsman don't mean you are good at it

Law is a swordsman
Fujitora is a swordsman

but their swordsmanship should be on low levels ... Roger too wasn't among best swordsman ...


you want to know what is Lmfao and pathetic

using 100 fan fiction , head canon and wall of deny to run away from most obvious and easy thing to understand

World Strongest Swordsman was never a term for over all power and Oda NEVER gave us ANY ON PANEL fact to prove it


live and die in your wank fiction

 

[HA001]

sigh ...

first be civil
2nd ... I said 100 times ... ROGER IS A SWORDSMAN

but being a swordsman don't mean you are good at it

Law is a swordsman
Fujitora is a swordsman

but their swordsmanship should be on low levels ... Roger too wasn't among best swordsman ...


you want to know what is Lmfao and pathetic

using 100 fan fiction , head canon and wall of deny to run away from most obvious and easy thing to understand

World Strongest Swordsman was never a term for over all power and Oda NEVER gave us ANY ON PANEL fact to prove it


live and die in your wank fiction

Eos zoro > roger confirmed

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Monsters isn't canon... People seem to misunderstand this point

I get that, but blame Oda for that. he loves to overlap shit, specially when he confirms that Ryuuma in Punk Hazard is the SAME Ryuuma in the Monsters manga. Besides, the title "Sword God" has better ring and sounds 10x better than "Strongest swordsman" hahahaha

You see, Strongest swordsman is a title given to mortals, humans, who are to be killed or defeated one day.
Ryuuma reached a God status hahaha. He is no more called "man" hahaha

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

this is a FUCKING STORY!!!!!!

if some one be some thing ... Oda will tell us


There's difference between Roger being WSS and having the title of WSS


is just a cheap dodge form my logical and legit point

It's easy, if Roger wasnt WSS then who was?

Find the panel where it was stated or even implied that the title of WSS existed before Mihawk had it and then you can start discussing that

And like I said, Zoro is the end all be all of what the story defines swordsmanship as... Zoro beats his opponents to strive to become WSS. He doesn't out skill them.. ZORO JUST WINS

According to you its entirely possible that Zoro could beat Mihawk and not be WSS since according you, you can beat the WSS and not have "the skill" to actually be WSS

Are you seeing where this is going? You are advocating for a scenario where Zoro can actually beat Mihawk and not get his title yet the last 1000 chapters have been directly telling us that once Zoro beats a swordsman it directly means he's a batter swordsman than they are.

Are you seeing how dumb this is? Even the vice versa is true

Zoro might lose to mihawk and then be declared WSS nonetheless since he has "more skill" somehow and doesn't actually have to beat Mihawk since winning is no longer what makes you better... and once again that undermines ALL OF THE ZORO'S WINS FOR THE LAST 1000 CHAPTERS because Winning isn't a requirement to begin wit

Huhhhhhhh

See its fine to make up a theory but you should consider how that theory applies to he actual story before just claiming "it's logical"... This is the biggest problem with people making theories in this site, everyone seems to forget that their theories have to actually tie into the rest of the fuckin story and not just their little bubbles they choose

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It is.

No its not... Ryuma being a character from Monsters is the only thing Oda has ever stated about this... He has never said that everything that happens in Monsters is directly canon in the one piece story

 

[Guan Yu]

Yoooo now maybe this is a huge reach-
But Shiryu is born in May the same of the Uzuki
Uzuki means moon rain and Shiryu's epithet is Shiryu of the rain :unsure:

Shiryuu Uzuki --> S. Uzuki --> Suzuki -->

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

What's wrong with people calling Roger a swordsman hahahaha
Jeez.

A swordsman is a person who relies heavily on his sword in most of his techniques. Be it Devil Fruit user, or non-Devil Fruit user

Fujitora is called "Blind swordsman". Most of his technqiues, even the fucking meteorite is being delivered and being unleashed through the sword.

Big Mom is not a swordsmaster. Why? because Napoleon is only but one part of her many powers and techniques.

Roger??? we have not seen how he fights, so how can we call him a swordsman just because he carries one.

 

[HA001]

What's wrong with people calling Roger a swordsman hahahaha
Jeez.

A swordsman is a person who relies heavily on his sword in most of his techniques. Be it Devil Fruit user, or non-Devil Fruit user

Fujitora is called "Blind swordsman". Most of his technqiues, even the fucking meteorite is being delivered and being unleashed through the sword.

Big Mom is not a swordsmaster. Why? because Napoleon is only but one part of her many powers and techniques.

Roger??? we have not seen how he fights, so how can we call him a swordsman just because he carries one.

So roger whose been travelling for decades at that point is carrying a sword for shits and giggles ?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I get that, but blame Oda for that. he loves to overlap shit, specially when he confirms that Ryuuma in Punk Hazard is the SAME Ryuuma in the Monsters manga. Besides, the title "Sword God" has better ring and sounds 10x better than "Strongest swordsman" hahahaha

You see, Strongest swordsman is a title given to mortals, humans, who are to be killed or defeated one day.
Ryuuma reached a God status hahaha. He is no more called "man" hahaha

You mean like how Enel was a "god" ins Skypiea because of how isolated the country was from everything

Notice the similarity with wano the isolationist country also having a "god"...

Anyway, The reason why people want a Ryuma flashback and Oda doesn't just redraw monsters and print it as it is in one piece is because there will be changes... In fact there have already been changes with the very little that Ryuma has been stated to do in one piece already

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Just wait to see Roger fightstyle and is power overall, then we can probably put him in same category as swordman fighter as Zoro or Mihawk.

 

[MarineHQ]

So wasn't here for a couple hours, did any other interesting discussion aside from Marco/Oden and Sengoku being a beast pop up?

 

[HA001]

So wasn't here for a couple hours, did any other interesting discussion aside from Marco/Oden and Sengoku being a beast pop up?

Apparently roger whose been on his journey for decades has that sword for decoration. He cant really use it...

 

[Dark Hound]

What's wrong with people calling Roger a swordsman hahahaha
Jeez.

A swordsman is a person who relies heavily on his sword in most of his techniques. Be it Devil Fruit user, or non-Devil Fruit user

Fujitora is called "Blind swordsman". Most of his technqiues, even the fucking meteorite is being delivered and being unleashed through the sword.

Big Mom is not a swordsmaster. Why? because Napoleon is only but one part of her many powers and techniques.

Roger??? we have not seen how he fights, so how can we call him a swordsman just because he carries one.

:cheers:
Agree for Fuji

 

[Blackbeard]

My money : Shanks wanted to make Teach the next Roger ... until he understand who dark is Teach

they were friends at some point for sure

The way they both influenced Luffy too. remember when Shanks didn't fight back against Higuma ? look at how BB agreed with Shanks' behavior :

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Both of them had the same way of thinking

 

[MarineHQ]

Apparently roger whose been on his journey for decades has that sword for decoration. He cant really use it...

Oh the was Roger a swordsman topic, I see

 

[HA001]

Oh the was Roger a swordsman topic, I see

People finally accepted that admiral kitsune was the strongest of all marines...

 

[MarineHQ]

People finally accepted that admiral kitsune was the strongest of all marines...

Admiral Kitsune took on the entire roger pirates