Speculations Why Kaido is Going to Kill himself...

#1
When we were first introduced to Kaido he was Trying to Kill himself.The chapter was titled Suicide and he had a speech about how he wanted the greatest war and to go out in a blaze of glory like Whitebeard.




Kaido has always had suicidal tendecnies , and I think thats going to matter when it comes to his downfall.... his characteristics even match that of someone who is suicidal. The Heavy drinking ,depression, emotional inconsistency, and psychological trauma tell the story itself.



And it’s all linked to one source….

ODEN…..

Oden left a psychological imprint on Kaido so much so that Kaido see’s his visage s and can sense his spirit in his very weapon.



The Oden vs Kaido fight is the source of kaidos trauma and likely the great deaths of roger and whitebeard.
Kaido wants to die like them

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Taking Kaidos Head

Multiple characters have said they want take kaidos head/ defeat him.

And honestly that’s exactly what Kaido Wants…. Someone strong and respectful to do it.Do we really think Kaido is going to get what he wants and be killed by someone strong like oden, Roger or whitebeard? Is it all going to play out like he wants? ZKK is giving Kaido the death he wants, Kid Killing Kaido is giving kaido what he wants, Somoene strong from the worst generation Killing kaido is playing into Kaidos goal of dying like Roger, whitebeard and Oden...... Villains do not have their way , from a goal standpoint in the series. Which leads to my next point

One Piece Villains Do NOT get what they want…….
Doflamingo, Crocodile, Enel None of them achieved their goals.



If Kaido wants to be killed in a blaze of glory he’s not going to get it.

Luffy vs Kat ,Oden vs Kaido, Luffy vs Kaido ……

Just last arc Luffy fought an opponent so powerful for the first time Oda had Luffys opponent injure himself. Of course there’s context as to why it was done but still, it’s a move Oda made that’s part of the reason Katakuri lost the fight, I’ll be going into deon the other part coming up.



Luffys Character
Yup…. It played a critical role in Luffys last major fight and it’s going to play a critical role here. People don’t like to admit this but character is another big reason Katakuri fell on his back from the flashback with Rayleigh and Luffy talking about his opponents personality

To the dialogue they had just before Katakuri fell on his back.

And given the gap in strength is even bigger now, Luffys Character will also play a role here.
Luffy will display very similar characteristics as Oden and Kaido will gain respect for him. Kaido will then finally recognize Luffy as someone worthy of killing him.

however Luffy does not kill…… everyone knows this . So how will Oda take Kaido out of the story?

They will have their exchange of blows chapter just like Luffy and Kat did


and just as Luffy is about to get the upper hand
somebody or something will distract Luffy last minute and Kaido will defeat Luffy once Again.

It will be a remake of the Oden vs Kaido scene.



This will Break Kaidos's spirit tremendously since he thought luffy would be the one, Kaido will then come to the conclusion that he is forever cursed by Oden and will never get the death he wants. Will never die like legends such as Oden, Whitebeard and Roger. Again, Effectively breaking Kaidos spirit. Kaido will then shockingly Kill Himself, by taking the kitetsu from the beginning of the arc and beheading himself. However, no one in the area will witness it, people will only see the aftermath.




And Just like the events of Wholecake island false information will be spread that Luffy killed kaido.

Strong believer that the downfall of the Emperors will be due to who they are as a character. (I know it sucks but we cant deny thats the route oda is going) Luffy is included in that as well but thats for another thread...



Leave your thoughts......

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#4
kaido will be defeated against multiple people, luffy is not winning a 1v1 against him, and we have build up to that:

oden said kaido will be taken down by pirates leaders of the new generation
there's nothing wrong with kaido getting killed especially when he has a secondary goal of world domination.
enel also got his wish by going to the moon.
so if luffy can't kill kaido, zoro or kidd can do it
 
#5
I still think killing kaido in any manner whether that be suicide or execution Is a bit extreme for one piece.

Wano has a history of execution in the form of punishment and since the beginning we’ve seen that this is wrong. Momos life In particular was ruined due to it. There would be no orochis or kanjuros if oroch grandparents weren’t forced to kill themselves and bloodline cursed. His father and family was executed As well. Heck Just look in act two where public execution was shown in the forms of sumo inferno and Yasuies death. I think Oda is preparing us that this is not going to be the future for Wano, at least not Momos Wano.
 
#6
I still think killing kaido in any manner whether that be suicide or execution Is a bit extreme for one piece.

Wano has a history of execution in the form of punishment and since the beginning we’ve seen that this is wrong. Momos life In particular was ruined due to it. There would be no orochis or kanjuros if oroch grandparents weren’t forced to kill themselves and bloodline cursed. His father and family was executed As well. Heck Just look in act two where public execution was shown in the forms of sumo inferno and Yasuies death. I think Oda is preparing us that this is not going to be the future for Wano, at least not Momos Wano.
how about kidd though? he's not doesn't relate to wano or the straw hats, and he was pretty vocal about his desire to kill kaido.
 
#7
I still think killing kaido in any manner whether that be suicide or execution Is a bit extreme for one piece.

Wano has a history of execution in the form of punishment and since the beginning we’ve seen that this is wrong. Momos life In particular was ruined due to it. There would be no orochis or kanjuros if oroch grandparents weren’t forced to kill themselves and bloodline cursed. His father and family was executed As well. Heck Just look in act two where public execution was shown in the forms of sumo inferno and Yasuies death. I think Oda is preparing us that this is not going to be the future for Wano, at least not Momos Wano.
It's not extreme for OP for Kaidou to be executed.
OP's flashback has many many more fucked up cercumstances than beheading a man
 
#8
I still think killing kaido in any manner whether that be suicide or execution Is a bit extreme for one piece.

Wano has a history of execution in the form of punishment and since the beginning we’ve seen that this is wrong. Momos life In particular was ruined due to it. There would be no orochis or kanjuros if oroch grandparents weren’t forced to kill themselves and bloodline cursed. His father and family was executed As well. Heck Just look in act two where public execution was shown in the forms of sumo inferno and Yasuies death. I think Oda is preparing us that this is not going to be the future for Wano, at least not Momos Wano.
Well here are some things we know..... We know Its going to come down to Luffy vs Kaido , We know Luffy does not Kill, And we know the story cannot continue with all the emperors being Alive.
 
#9
It's not extreme for OP for Kaidou to be executed.
OP's flashback has many many more fucked up cercumstances than beheading a man
These are flashbacks. These are supposed to show the harshest of times in an individuals life. The end of this war is supposed to be the brightest era in Wano. I can’t see it starting with death because Odas aversion to it.
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Well here are some things we know..... We know Its going to come down to Luffy vs Kaido , We know Luffy does not Kill, And we know the story cannot continue with all the emperors being Alive.
I disagree. I think the story will continue on the same whether Kaido lives or dies. CP0 is here to literally clean up once the war ends. Not to mention they live in the island of sea stone, an unbreakable material that weakens Devil fruit users. kaido could very well just live out the rest of his days stripped of his powers and chained. Which is more or less how momotaro ends in the folktale.
 
#10
These are flashbacks. These are supposed to show the harshest of times in an individuals life. The end of this war is supposed to be the brightest era in Wano. I can’t see it starting with death because Odas aversion to it.
Eh you can be at the end of an arc and having some sort of sadness moment tho
Going's Merry' funeral is supposed to be one of the saddest moments of OP and it's at the arc's end.
 
#11
Eh you can be at the end of an arc and having some sort of sadness moment tho
Going's Merry' funeral is supposed to be one of the saddest moments of OP and it's at the arc's end.
But that was meant to be sad. Kaidos death if It occurs would be portrayed as a happy moment. Which the only people who celebrate when their enemy is killed are always portrayed negatively (orochi and Celestial Dragons are examples) I’m saying Oda portraying killing and execution in a positive and happy light isn’t something he does. He could change it, I’m not saying he won’t, i just personally don’t see it right now.
 
#12
These are flashbacks. These are supposed to show the harshest of times in an individuals life. The end of this war is supposed to be the brightest era in Wano. I can’t see it starting with death because Odas aversion to it.
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I disagree. I think the story will continue on the same whether Kaido lives or dies. CP0 is here to literally clean up once the war ends. Not to mention they live in the island of sea stone, an unbreakable material that weakens Devil fruit users. kaido could very well just live out the rest of his days stripped of his powers and chained. Which is more or less how momotaro ends in the folktale.
How do we know Kaido wont just break out? Atleast a handful of people have broken out of prison in one piece....
 
#13
How do we know Kaido wont just break out? Atleast a handful of people have broken out of prison in one piece....
The only person we know who broke out of prison alone is Shiki. Since then things have greatly changed. We don’t know how Kaido escaped before but judging how two of his top men seem to be ex workers of the WG, he didn’t do it of his own ability.
 
#14
kaido will be defeated against multiple people, luffy is not winning a 1v1 against him, and we have build up to that:

oden said kaido will be taken down by pirates leaders of the new generation
there's nothing wrong with kaido getting killed especially when he has a secondary goal of world domination.
enel also got his wish by going to the moon.
so if luffy can't kill kaido, zoro or kidd can do it
Its gonna come down to Luffy vs Kaido tho.....
 
#15
And honestly that’s exactly what Kaido Wants…. Someone strong and respectful to do it.Do we really think Kaido is going to get what he wants and be killed by someone strong like oden, Roger or whitebeard? Is it all going to play out like he wants? ZKK is giving Kaido the death he wants, Kid Killing Kaido is giving kaido what he wants, Somoene strong from the worst generation Killing kaido is playing into Kaidos goal of dying like Roger, whitebeard and Oden...... Villains do not have their way , from a goal standpoint in the series. Which leads to my next point

One Piece Villains Do NOT get what they want…….
Doflamingo, Crocodile, Enel None of them achieved their goals.
Meh, looks more like a cheap way to get rid of everything that supports him dying at the hands of someone else.

All Oda has to do is make Kaido turn out to be a hypocrite.
Which, given this page, isn't that difficult to do. Lol.
 
#16
Meh, looks more like a cheap way to get rid of everything that supports him dying at the hands of someone else.

All Oda has to do is make Kaido turn out to be a hypocrite.
Which, given this page, isn't that difficult to do. Lol.
But you cant deny him dying at his own Hand would be more shocking... and its not out of the realm of possibility.
 
#17
Its gonna come down to Luffy vs Kaido tho.....
i know, it's just doesn't make sense to me.
the stakes are about freeing wano by the end of the new year day, which is a very short time to defeat an extremely powerful yonko in a 1v1 battle, luffy vs katakuri was 12 hours, the fire festival started at midnight, that means they have until dawn aka 05:00 AM to defeat kaido, it's just not possible, big mom fought kaido for an entire night and they barely made a scratch on each other, if luffy actually pulled the win in such little time on his own, then wano is far worse than i thought.
 

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#18
He would probably fail to easily do that even without eventually coating himself.

His AP is funnily not good enough to kill himself easily probably. Meanwhile Zoro would likely be the one to perform the job and Kaido could accept that over remaining imprisoned for life fundamentally.
 
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