[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 1 - Town of Salem (Test)

[Flower]

Basically I raise a dead player and use their ability on a target of my choice.

 

[Flower]

Krogo if this is the argument you’re using, then a retri being there is also not guaranteed.

In fact the role that can be publicly revealed an confirmed >> than a role that can’t be publicly confirmed.


No Tris, jailing a doused mayor, having a body guard protect them or a crusader won’t protect from ignition either.

A doused in revealed mayor can be healed of being doused by a doctor.

A Doctor can't remove a douse. You're literally already dead if we don't find the Arso either way.

 

[Lindltaylor]

I understand the idea behind not revealing, but I feel like at this point you may as well do so. At best, it's eating up discussion time and presents a distraction that need not be present. You can save the (maybe rightful) indignation at being forced to reveal until the post game.

Ratchet, I don't care about the rest, but are you looking at the stupid arguments that Flower is making?

First Flower says this:

You know exactly a Doc can't prevent you from being ignited.

Of course I know that the Doc can't protect me from being ignited, which wasn't even my argument here. I'm saying I can't be protected by from an ignition if I am revealed since I can't be healed at all. Flower openly misinterpreted my post here.

We have no proof there is an actual arso in the game, just a theory right now.

We don't, and even I don't. Either we believe Flower and I know that the arso is present since I can't investigate with the Arso results anyway, or Flower is the one that doused me.

We have flower claiming she got results on you and those results don't match with the claim you are making mayor.

Or Flower also has an unverifiable claim and is making me reveal myself because as the Arso she can ignite me anytime now since I can never be healed of being doused.

We have no proof there is an actual mayor role in the game either, just because he's unique doesn't make him required

We have no proof of a retri being here, just because it's unique doesn't mean that it is present.

Your reason for not revealing is because you don't want to die? Okay thats a bad attitude to be honest because if you revealing helps town win the game then your death is worthwhile and you'll win with town so you're just reacting to the fear of death in the game, not a good look.

It's always a defense I can use and in ToS I want to save my mayor reveal when we need it like in Lylo. The entire point of a consensual innocent child, like the mayor, was built for those predicaments. Come on, you, ratchet and I have played mafia and know it all too well much better. Don't tell me you're actually listening to the BS that flower is spouting.

So logically right now, there's no proof you are the mayor or doused and your acting like we should believe you on the spot because, I'm going to assume this is the reason one of the reasons you'll use.

Nope, trust me. It's either I am doused, or Flower is the arso wanting to get a definite ignition with my reveal. Trust me here Krogo.

 

[Flower]

@Lindltaylor read the fucking guide. The only role being able to remove a douse is a Guardian Angel.

 

[Lindltaylor]

I'm not revealing myself. If you still want to lynch me then so be it. I'm not even going to consider that Flower is town at this point.

@krogothwolf @Ratchet @Light D Lamperouge @Cray Cray @Bortolomeo

It's your choice.

 

[Flower]

Lynch this guy. His arguments for not revealing are literal BS.

 

[Lindltaylor]

@Lindltaylor read the fucking guide. The only role being able to remove a douse is a Guardian Angel.

No! You stop being stubborn for one goddamn game!

 

[Lindltaylor]

Lynch this guy. His arguments for not revealing are literal BS.

Lynching the mayor.. top kek.

Vote lynch Flower @Zem

No one is voting anyone else today except these two wagons of Flower and mine.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Ratchet, I don't care about the rest, but are you looking at the stupid arguments that Flower is making?

First Flower says this:

Of course I know that the Doc can't protect me from being ignited, which wasn't even my argument here. I'm saying I can't be protected by from an ignition if I am revealed since I can't be healed at all. Flower openly misinterpreted my post here.


We don't, and even I don't. Either we believe Flower and I know that the arso is present since I can't investigate with the Arso results anyway, or Flower is the one that doused me.


Or Flower also has an unverifiable claim and is making me reveal myself because as the Arso she can ignite me anytime now since I can never be healed of being doused.


We have no proof of a retri being here, just because it's unique doesn't mean that it is present.


It's always a defense I can use and in ToS I want to save my mayor reveal when we need it like in Lylo. The entire point of a consensual innocent child, like the mayor, was built for those predicaments. Come on, you, ratchet and I have played mafia and know it all too well much better. Don't tell me you're actually listening to the BS that flower is spouting.


Nope, trust me. It's either I am doused, or Flower is the arso wanting to get a definite ignition with my reveal. Trust me here Krogo.

So either you or Flower are lying or is there a third option from the mechanical perspective?

 

[Flower]

No! You stop being stubborn for one goddamn game!

I'm going with my results. You can't disprove them, you're scum. If you're the Mayor it's literally game throwing.

 

[Flower]

So either you or Flower are lying or is there a third option from the mechanical perspective?

Best case: Lind is scum who fake claimed.
Worst case: He's too stupid to reveal himself which would confirm an Arso being in the game and help Town with voting power and perhaps narrow down suspects which helps us find the Arso because if he is a doused Mayor nobody can save him anymore anyway.

 

[Flower]

Legit zero reason for his refusal to reveal, so I treat him as scum who fake claimed and just can't reveal. Period.

 

[Lindltaylor]

So either you or Flower are lying or is there a third option from the mechanical perspective?

Flower is very much lying about who she is at this point. Don't believe her LM. Her whole push is based on:
"My results can't be wrong. You are not doing what I told you to do! So you're scum"

Vote her up. After I flip mayor all she's going to say is that I was stubborn. There's no other defense she can use. I'm really sure she's just scum at this point.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Best case: Lind is scum who fake claimed.
Worst case: He's too stupid to reveal himself which would confirm an Arso being in the game and help Town with voting power and perhaps narrow down suspects which helps us find the Arso because if he is a doused Mayor nobody can save him anymore anyway.

So you think we should ignore this Barto vs Fuji stuff from last day?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Flower is very much lying about who she is at this point. Don't believe her LM. Her whole push is based on:
"My results can't be wrong. You are not doing what I told you to do! So you're scum"

Vote her up. After I flip mayor all she's going to say is that I was stubborn. There's no other defense she can use. I'm really sure she's just scum at this point.

Okay i checked the investigator role and she would get Mayor result on you as one of possible results?

 

[Flower]

Flower is very much lying about who she is at this point. Don't believe her LM. Her whole push is based on:
"My results can't be wrong. You are not doing what I told you to do! So you're scum"

Vote her up. After I flip mayor all she's going to say is that I was stubborn. There's no other defense she can use. I'm really sure she's just scum at this point.

Well, if you lynch me, people will know I was telling the truth, too. So it's fine.

 

[Flower]

So you think we should ignore this Barto vs Fuji stuff from last day?

Lind has a scum result on him and I want this resolved today.

 

[RippedCal]

lets lynch Fuji!!!!!!!

 

[Flower]

Okay i checked the investigator role and she would get Mayor result on you as one of possible results?

No, I got Arso/GF/BG/Crusader on him. You either get this result when somebody has one of those roles or was doused. If Lind is a Mayor and was doused, he could reveal himself. This way we would know there's an Arsonist in the game. But he refuses to use even an inch of his brain if he really is Mayor or just fake claimed and can't reveal himself.

 

[Flower]

lets lynch Fuji!!!!!!!

NO!