Chapter Discussion Could Brook, Chopper and Nami defeat a tobiroppo individually?

Chaves

Chaves

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I believe so.

Brook is much more powerful, can destroy a Number, and many gifters with a single attack.
In onigashma he demonstrated much more power with his ice, being able to freeze his enemies completely, freeze an entire large room and make walls of ice (mastery of his cold skills far more impressive than he had previously shown)

Chopper has increased his monsterpoint timeout, successfully stalled Queen, plus he always faces opponents of the same level as Franky (Kumadori/Fukurou and Ikaros/Dosun), and I believe FI also established that Franky shogun ~ Monster Point.

Nami defeated Ulti wounded, yes. But we have to take into account that Nami was learning how to use Zeus in the tact climate, currently with this skill completely mastered, I'm sure she can have enough resources to beat a tobiroppo in 1v1 cleanly.
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

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Yeah I guess the combo Zeus + Nami is likely stronger than Black Maria and the AoE vastness is probably the best weapon to deal with her powers.

Chopper displayed some very neat capability and he is a bad match up for her in that durability is likely not her forte so a round of Monster Point would likely do the job. I think BM is likely only pushing Queen to low difficulty.

Brook I don't see him weaker than Chopper on paper but he doesn't possess that crazy output so I dunno.
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

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Chaves said:
successfully stalled Queen
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Queen just played with him and was about to finish him anytime

About the thread : Yeah I think Monster point Choppa can stall a TR especially with the longer duration now. But I don’t think he can really win.

Against WsW : WsW too fast and mobile and has long range attacks.

Against Sasaki : the rocket triceratops will be hard to counter and deal with. The blade can damage chopper too. If Sasaki managed to destroy the really durable General he can likely hurt Chopper.

But Sasaki is big and Chopper sheer power so I can’t say his chance are non existant. But I still favor Sasaki a bit.

Black Maria : i don’t think Chopper can counter the spider web especially how big he is. The poison Chopper can likely counter it but the fire will also be a problem. BM attack power is not huge but she has ways to counter big types

Ulti : fast and smaller than the other TB. She also can tank good hits.

PO : don’t know we never saw Po full power (sadly).

Overall Feat wise I don’t think Chopper can beat most of TB

But if we go by scalling Chopper max power was always around the mid SH and they managed to beat TR, so I don’t know
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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Yes.

Namis Zeus turns every fight into a 2 v 1 where they need to dodge Namis attacks as well as Zeus’ seeking lightning. Not to mention the damage she does in intense. She can take some hits as well.

Brooks attacks are also very impressive and in a single stroke destroyed all of Black Marias subordinates. Give Brook an actual fight and his soul powers may come in full force.

Finally, Chopper has some intense strength and durability in a one v one chopper should be able to take it.
 
Chaves

Chaves

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Garp the Fist said:
Nami… eh. Has the firepower with Zeus, was lacking in everything else
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Zeus can be both an offensive and defensive aid, and even improves Nami's mobility. Apart from the other powers like mirages and heat powers, which will also be optimized with Zeus' power.

Like I said, Nami had just been given that power, so she looked like a layman. When she masters the power of Zeus, then she will definitely skip some levels.

RayanOO said:
Queen just played with him and was about to finish him anytime

About the thread : Yeah I think Monster point Choppa can stall a TR especially with the longer duration now. But I don’t think he can really win.

Against WsW : WsW too fast and mobile and has long range attacks.

Against Sasaki : the rocket triceratops will be hard to counter and deal with. The blade can damage chopper too. If Sasaki managed to destroy the really durable General he can likely hurt Chopper.

But Sasaki is big and Chopper sheer power so I can’t say his chance are non existant. But I still favor Sasaki a bit.

Black Maria : i don’t think Chopper can counter the spider web especially how big he is. The poison Chopper can likely counter it but the fire will also be a problem. BM attack power is not huge but she has ways to counter big types

Ulti : fast and smaller than the other TB. She also can tank good hits.

PO : don’t know we never saw Po full power (sadly).

Overall Feat wise I don’t think Chopper can beat most of TB

But if we go by scalling Chopper max power was always around the mid SH and they managed to beat TR, so I don’t know
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Even though Queen was joking, Chopper still had significant fighting prowess, Queen was using Lazers, robotic fangs to hurt and etc, and yet Chopper still managed to stall a fight.

I think you're underestimating Chopper's fighting skills a bit, I think he could fight as well as Franky Shogun, and his stamina/durability is better than any tobiroppo, he's not just a tank either, Chopper can dodge of attacks and making ippons, and your attack power is also not far behind.
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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Chaves said:
I believe so.

Brook is much more powerful, can destroy a Number, and many gifters with a single attack.
In onigashma he demonstrated much more power with his ice, being able to freeze his enemies completely, freeze an entire large room and make walls of ice (mastery of his cold skills far more impressive than he had previously shown)

Chopper has increased his monsterpoint timeout, successfully stalled Queen, plus he always faces opponents of the same level as Franky (Kumadori/Fukurou and Ikaros/Dosun), and I believe FI also established that Franky shogun ~ Monster Point.

Nami defeated Ulti wounded, yes. But we have to take into account that Nami was learning how to use Zeus in the tact climate, currently with this skill completely mastered, I'm sure she can have enough resources to beat a tobiroppo in 1v1 cleanly.
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Now that the ceiling between floors 3 and 4 was destroyed, Who’s Who, who has now realized that Jinbe is much stronger than him and also won’t reveal anything about Nika, will go after Robin, who, for very obvious reasons, would likely know something about Nika. Brook will have to protect Robin from the former CP9 agent
 
mugiwalaw

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Shiroyru said:
Now that the ceiling between floors 3 and 4 was destroyed, Who’s Who, who has now realized that Jinbe is much stronger than him and also won’t reveal anything about Nika, will go after Robin, who, for very obvious reasons, would likely know something about Nika. Brook will have to protect Robin from the former CP9 agent
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lmao for what sake she should know about Nika? she barelly knew about what Joyboy, or will of D. is.

the one who should come after Robin now should be CP-0
 
H

humanbeing

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yes all of them can defeat a Topirobbo Nami with his power up can defeat maybe any of them with exception of Sasaki and WsW. especially WsW because he is damn fast and has observation haki. she showed before that she can attack Ulti and now her attacks are much bigger and more effective.
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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mugiwalaw said:
lmao for what sake she should know about Nika? she barelly knew about what Joyboy, or will of D. is.

the one who should come after Robin now should be CP-0
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Because she can read the ancient language, is a famous historian/archeologist, and has already read many Poneglyphs… The chance of Robin knowing about Nika is much higher than the chance of Jinbe knowing about Nika

I think it’s too early for SHs to be beating CP0. WsW makes more sense
 
mugiwalaw

mugiwalaw

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Shiroyru said:
Because she can read the ancient language, is a famous historian/archeologist, and has already read many Poneglyphs… The chance of Robin knowing about Nika is much higher than the chance of Jinbe knowing about Nika

I think it’s too early for SHs to be beating CP0. WsW makes more sense
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still makes no sense like out of nowhere WsW spouting shit like "Robin, please tell me about Nika" and why you people keep wanting Brook vs WsW, please make it stop lmao

they dont have to fight CP-0 now, but like what WG always do to take Robin away.. since its potentially more dangerous if CP0 let these yonko taking Robin with them.
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
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Chaves said:
I think he could fight as well as Franky Shogun,
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Yet Franky Shogun was destroyed by Sasaki. Sasaki managed to beat Franky shogun. So against a big target I think Sasaki can beat Chopper.
Chaves said:
robotic fangs
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IIRC Queen only used the robotic fangs in the end to finish Chopper and its Sanji who broke them. He never bite Chopper with them (maybe im wrong).

And I don't think Chopper can really fight the spider nat from Black maria given how big he is in Monster form.
 
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