Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

[CbShadow]

Marco has been fighting in the entire war my dude, holding back Queen and King, clashing with Big Mom and so forth.
You have not even seen King btw, so it´s baseless.

yes semi serious. The attack was done to cover as much AoE as possible but those were not even remotely both of their strongest attacks. Neither of them even used Haki. AdvCoC is far stronger on an individual basis.

Luffy would not be able to stop Hakai either, he has no weapon. Both Luffy and Katakuri can dodge though and deal with it differently.
Luffy can´t stop a King sword attack with his body either.

Already addressed this point.

Dude Asura, by Zoro´s own admission, was his strongest attack, and it barely gave Kaidou a scar.
Meaning this is all equally baseless and something you hope will happen.

Marco has been fighting King longer than anybody else and so far we have yet to see King use his hybrid mode. Those are the facts. He hasn't defeating him. It doesn't matter if King hasn't defeat Marco because if King is not using his strongest mode that means that King is still holding back.

That was a serious attack not a semi serious. That was the strongest attack we have seen from them and the strongest in the entire manga up to this point. They tried to kill all of the SN with that attack. If you think a character must use haki to be serious then you don't understand anything.

Haki was the key to blocking Hakai. That attack was bigger than all the SN and Zorro swords are smaller than is body. As you can see in the post Zoro was able to protect everyone because he created a barrier haki larger than his body and a supernovas.

Luffy could block King sword with his barrier haki like he did against Kaido's club. Like in the below scenes.

That was Zoro's strongest attack but was still performed in a weak and poor condition. That makes a difference. Zoro scarred hybrid Kaido a feat we've never seen before. Zoro in better condition would have been stronger and could have used asura mode more times.

My post not baseless I'm using facts to support my post and I am seeing the same BS I see time and time again. Fans trying to tell me that Zoro in better condition wouldn't have performed better. That Zoro can't use his power and skill to block weaker attacks then ones he blocked.

 

[zzShinichi]

Would you call that as Kidd collapsing/falling down?

I don't know lol, the thing with Kid is kinda in the middle of "collapse" and "fall on the knee". So maybe Sanji got temporarily handicapped but not yet heavily injured

 

[FreezyBreeze]

Idk.... when you compare him to other commanders like smoothie , jack hell even Queen. He really doesnt that bad, but for a first commander, i guess it is a bit underwhelming compared to what weve seen.

The problem with King is his presence at Onigashima has been almost nonexistent. At no point do we really feel he’s a threat to the samurai forces. He could of been at the flower capital this entire time and nothing of value would be lost.

Jack at least fought (and mostly defeated) an army of Sulong minks while Queen launched an ice plague that almost overwhelmed the live floor.

 

[serialwinnerv7]

People should really get over Sanji vs Doffy. Sanji has grown stronger. He is on the same lvl as YCs now doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not it’s how it is now.

True, its just simple plot progression.

 

[Brendan Schaub]

Just woke up
Zoro is fighting King? Who would've guessed

 

[BakiDou]

Don't act like y'all didn't say that some random punches from BM nerfed Sanji.

I mean, he didnt used haki to defend and he was spitting blood, he took some damage.

 

[bennbeckman]

Character growth. You can dislike Luffy for what and who it is, but Luffy was never supposed to go through "character growth", he is supposed to stimulate character growth in the characters in his surroundings.

Even the stuff with Ace was not about him growing but him not losing himself.

The stuff with Ace was character growth, the shit in the New World is same pig different lip stick. he does 2 things everytime, gets overemotional and rushes into things without thinking then punch punch punch, knocked down, then gets back up new powerup more punch punch punch

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Well guess I can’t blame people for not speculating too much since Oda has honestly been shitting the bed a lot lately. Will we get to see Dragon fight BB? Nope. Will Bobbin actually be an important character, given he was one of the first BMPs we saw and wasn’t scared of BM? Nope. Will Sanji actually get a fight in his own arc? Nope. Is Dragon going to be at the Reverie, given that Oda through in a line about the “strong winds” at Mary Geoise? Nope, he’s hanging out with a bunch of Okama and reacting helplessly to his men getting defeated. Will the Wano samurai even come close to living up to their hype? Nope, they’re just normal fodder. Will the Gifters and headliners be threatening? Nope. Will the Numbers be threatening? Nope. Will the F5 be threatening? Nope. Will the All Stars be threatening? Nope. Will Usopp and P1 actually get to do anything? Nope. Will Nami vs Ulti be interesting? Nope. Will Jinbe actually get a tough fight where we get to see the full extent of his power? Nope. Will Brook and Chopper actually get W’s that anyone cares about? Nope, they only get to trash some distracted fodders and create a cure to a disease that no one cared about and was clearly just there to waste time

Damn. You really nailed it. Especially about the Dragon stuff. Dude has serious potential, but he's being wasted.

 

[DarkWitch]

Imagine if King and Queen get defeated before Jack.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Marco has been fighting King longer than anybody else and so far we have yet to see King use his hybrid mode. Those are the facts. He hasn't defeating him. It doesn't matter if King hasn't defeat Marco because if King is not using his strongest mode that means that King is still holding back.

That was a serious attack not a semi serious. That was the strongest attack we have seen from them and the strongest in the entire manga up to this point. They tried to kill all of the SN with that attack. If you think a character must use haki to be serious then you don't understand anything.

Haki was the key to blocking Hakai. That attack was bigger than all the SN and Zorro swords are smaller than is body. As you can see in the post Zoro was able to protect everyone because he created a barrier haki larger than his body and a supernovas.


That was Zoro's strongest attack but was still performed in a weak and poor condition. That makes a difference. Zoro scarred hybrid Kaido a feat we've never seen before. Zoro in better condition would have been stronger and could have used asura mode more times.

My post not baseless I'm using facts to support my post and I am seeing the same BS I see time and time again. Fans trying to tell me that Zoro in better condition wouldn't have performed better. That Zoro can't use his power and skill to block weaker attacks then ones he blocked.

We have not seen the fight at all, also facts. How are you gonna see something if the fight itself is not shown.
It matters, even if you do not want to believe it does not.

Yes they have to use Haki.

This is baseless, Hakai is just a force. If Zoro can withstand that force for even a second, it´s not advancing.

This is baseless.

Yet here we are Zoro fighting King in top condition.

 

[Raughtale]

The stuff with Ace was character growth, the shit in the New World is same pig different lip stick. he does 2 things everytime, gets overemotional and rushes into things without thinking then punch punch punch, knocked down, then gets back up new powerup more punch punch punch

Literally every character in every media does this, whether it's a fighting shonen or a lawyer series, you're just Luffy mad.

 

[Black hair]

marco hold king and queen
sanji hold king and queen
zoro 100% vs 50% king

so sanji = marco >>> zoro
:cheers:

 

[MonsterZoro]

IF perospero attack sanji which mean sanji is still not fainted or passed out or KO'd it just means sanji is in a valunable position and perospero saw his chance.

Sanji probably just ate a big attack from queen and king and was getting up

 

[matt245]

I mean, he didnt used haki to defend and he was spitting blood, he took some damage.

From some normal punches from Black Maria?Someone who couldn't even drop Robin nerfed Sanji.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Is judges failure KO by fodder queen ?

 

[Captain Luffy]

Damn, what in the world happen...sanji had been facing two yonkou commanders alone...

 

[zzShinichi]

Damn don't tell me we won't know what happened with Marco till next week?
Dude just pops in and pops out of the fight like he's wack-a-mole

 

[draganax]

I think this is actually a genius play of Oda, Hawkins did something wrong who could cost him his Win. He should take Wire or Heat to nerf Killer. But in the moment when he take Kid he literally scream for his own defeat.

Killer can attack one hand of Hawkins, the same hand where Kid lose his hand xD.
Means only the metal get damaged but not Kid. And Killer only need to kill the dolls until Hawkins didn't have anyone left.

In case Killer beating Hawkins without hurting Kid xD.

First of all, how and when did hawkins do that?
Sure killer can just focus his attacks on the arm, but that still a massive nerf that would make it easier for hawkins to predict his moves, and the fight will be boring as hell.
Killer unfortunately will not win thst fight even though hawkins is one shot material.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Well guess I can’t blame people for not speculating too much since Oda has honestly been shitting the bed a lot lately. Will we get to see Dragon fight BB? Nope. Will Bobbin actually be an important character, given he was one of the first BMPs we saw and wasn’t scared of BM? Nope. Will Sanji actually get a fight in his own arc? Nope. Will Smoothie and Compote do anything? Nope. Is Dragon going to be at the Reverie, given that Oda through in a line about the “strong winds” at Mary Geoise? Nope, he’s hanging out with a bunch of Okama and reacting helplessly to his men getting defeated. Will the Wano samurai even come close to living up to their hype? Nope, they’re just normal fodder. Will the Gifters and headliners be threatening? Nope. Will the Numbers be threatening? Nope. Will the F5 be threatening? Nope. Will the All Stars be threatening? Nope. Will Usopp and P1 actually get to do anything? Nope. Will Nami vs Ulti be interesting? Nope. Will Jinbe actually get a tough fight where we get to see the full extent of his power? Nope. Will Brook and Chopper actually get W’s that anyone cares about? Nope, they only get to trash some distracted fodders and create a cure to a disease that no one cared about and was clearly just there to waste time

Agree with everything except Samurai.
A country with 5 high tiers is by far the strongest country we have seen to date.
But it´s also a country enslaved for 20 years and pretty much broken.

Unless you overthought the hype, i think it was pretty accurate.
Anything else i agree though.

 

[serkeara]

The stuff with Ace was character growth, the shit in the New World is same pig different lip stick. he does 2 things everytime, gets overemotional and rushes into things without thinking then punch punch punch, knocked down, then gets back up new powerup more punch punch punch

and by just that behavior, Luffy foreshadows legendary like Roger, Whitebeard, Joy Boy, Shank.
What a joke...