Should MonsterZoro be banned?


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How can you even ever think oda had nothing planned for sanji when germa was planned all the way from alabaster ?? What the hell wrong with yall ?? It's like yall know how to write op better than oda himself . Yall should stop being goofy .
Also disagree with the notion that Oda didn't plan Sanji's PUs post-ts. Disliking it doesn't automatically mean that no thought went into it. Even if we don't go full otaku on this, invisibility is something that Sanji himself has expressed a desire for pre-ts during his fight against absalom on thriller back, so Oda giving him invisibility via the RS has already been built up since then. Not to mention all the foreshadowing about his lineage from very early on in the series.
 
i mean there were things that he didn't use, before everyone in SHP got this miraculous buff in enies lobby

sanji wasn't even scratching Blueno.. but then in the same instance he almost broke his tekkai with a horizontal Concasser

and now he's pushing Jabura's tekkai and visibly denting it with moves that just seem to push Jabura or even throw him off but not break his tekkai.. do you believe if he were to Concasser Jabura he would have broken his tekkai..? i mean it should logically be plausible...but he never does.. one can argue that Jabura won't wait for sanji to spin and execute something mysterious since he's already pushing his tekkai.

Dj was more of a rage move, he didn't really use it as a last resort..
and DJ was just excessive for Jabura.. if it was a last resort you'd except it DJ just to break tekkai... my man burnt him to flipin bones that excessive as hell.
Sanji was hurt badly 3 times before this fight but I already posted proof that he broke jabras tekkai. Yall can quit downplaying the goat
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Zoro killed Kuina
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Sure . Zoro got stronger after Kaido fight and only now equal to Wanji
Man sanji on rooftop would be too op. He's faster than everyone else and invisible. Add in the fact that base sanji handling king and queen:lumazed:
 
One of the biggest talking points I don't see people addressing is the possible debunking of the popular theory of Redline being made by some unnatural phenomena after the 19 ruling families defeated the ancient kingdom.

This notion originally stemmed from one of the best theory in the community by the name of "Inherited will" a few years ago iirc.

Unless King's race and the WG coexisted for centuries on the redline (which is highly unlikely), then the most plausible scenario is that they were exterminated right AFTER the current WG was formed, meaning that the redline was a thing much much before that.

But then there's Laboon and his friends on the other side of the new world which make you believe that Redline is nothing but a hindrance to how they actually used to live

Another interesting tidbit I stumbled upon was this-


Would be interesting to see if some of these parts of the redline were occupied by other races like King's in the past, each with their own climactic conditions
 
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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
You don't think he'll pull out something new vs queen? He hasn't put the suit on and might show something from training like robin did.
i think he's gonna show all sorts of new things with the raid suit and this fight will maximize the potential of the raid suit. i dont think he'll have some stuff like robin did though.

even the robin stuff felt forced and last minute imo. it wasnt organically shown and developed but rather just given. i dont think thats good.
 
i mean there were things that he didn't use, before everyone in SHP got this miraculous buff in enies lobby

sanji wasn't even scratching Blueno.. but then in the same instance he almost broke his tekkai with a horizontal Concasser

and now he's pushing Jabura's tekkai and visibly denting it with moves that just seem to push Jabura or even throw him off but not break his tekkai.. do you believe if he were to Concasser Jabura he would have broken his tekkai..? i mean it should logically be plausible...but he never does.. one can argue that Jabura won't wait for sanji to spin and execute something mysterious since he's already pushing his tekkai.

Dj was more of a rage move, he didn't really use it as a last resort..
and DJ was just excessive for Jabura.. if it was a last resort you'd except it DJ just to break tekkai... my man burnt him to flipin bones that excessive as hell.
Sanji vs Blueno the latter went whiteeyed and barely held on, Sanji vs Tekkai against Jabra hurt him a little and pushed him back without doing any noteworthy damage, Sanji´s own dialogue underlines that.
When Jabra was not using Tekkai, the attacks went fully through and Jabra even bled all over.

I see no dent.
Could be, i can´t judge the difference in strength in Sanji´s kicks similarly to how easily you can judge Luffy´s or Zoro´s attacks, especially since Sanji is a precision fighter.

I don´t know, to me it seemed like all power-ups on EL were premeditated. Similarly to how Luffy reflected upon his loss against Aokiji, to me it feels like Zoro and Sanji did as well.
And look at Shabondy how quickly Sanji used DJ against Pacifista.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
How can you even ever think oda had nothing planned for sanji when germa was planned all the way from alabaster ?? What the hell wrong with yall ?? It's like yall know how to write op better than oda himself . Yall should stop being goofy .
please read the message i quoted before assuming stuff we were specifically talking about powerups and not plot and the germa thing was finished in wci.
 
i think he's gonna show all sorts of new things with the raid suit and this fight will maximize the potential of the raid suit. i dont think he'll have some stuff like robin did though.

even the robin stuff felt forced and last minute imo. it wasnt organically shown and developed but rather just given. i dont think thats good.
Idk what you mean. That's the way its been for all flashbacks. Random.
Sanji didn't pull the suit out vs king and queen together. I don't think he'll pull it out at all. Low powered Diable jambe sanji made queen spit up blood:steef:
 
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