[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 11 - JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Diamond is Unbreakable

[Lindltaylor]

Yeah I think Rhea might be a better choice. I have big doubts she's town after Ratch's play. If she's the SK and the BD we can't vig her at night. She'll just switch with someone and we'll be down a player.

My only problem with the Rhea lynch is that even if she's the SK, she can't take members from town and add them to her own like mafia can. So if we can reduce the cult's numbers that would be helpful too.

But I do think that it's the SK janitor killing all the townies. Let's wait for the Destroya claim before deciding the lynch?

 

[Rej]

I will track back a bit until the next vote count comes. I would like to formulate some stuff but I need to find the words for it.
Dyna for sure is not mafia for now.

 

[Adam 🍎]

My only problem with the Rhea lynch is that even if she's the SK, she can't take members from town and add them to her own like mafia can. So if we can reduce the cult's numbers that would be helpful too.

But i took mafia's ability to recruit?

 

[Lindltaylor]

But i took mafia's ability to recruit?

That's mafia's ability to recruit? The Stand creator? I thought they were recruiting with the Arrow?

 

[Adam 🍎]

That's mafia's ability to recruit? The Stand creator? I thought they were recruiting with the Arrow?

I did too but apparently not. Arrow must be something else then. Idk double votes? Double action? Protect for the night?

 

[Fujishiro]

Well, Rhea subbed in for Ratchet and came out saying that on Night 1, she/Ratchet bus drove Cal and Destroya. So when Conquist got the mafia result on Cal, he actually visited Destroya.

But if that's the case, why was Ratchet sitting with this info when we were mislynching Cal? So we are assuming this is an SK vs Mafia situation, or Ratchet didn't read the thread at the time.


I mean you're not wrong. Most of us are considering the Sk vs mafia situation. The timing is definitely not good here.

Oh god, then this would explain the Conq/Cal situation.

Ive been thinking that there was a severe lack of kills in a 20 player game and i remember discussing the possibility of there being an SK earlier.(Ratchet had to have been modblocked D2 and D3 due to their low post count)

Ratchet barely posted last phase but he was there i think D2 wasn’t he? And even if he wasn’t he was tagged and came around the time the Bus driving/redirect discussion was happening. Chances are high he might have seen them. But Destroya possibly being scum also goes along with what i said about people moving away from the Zara stuff D2 and even D1.

@Tobi expand upon your n2 actions please?


@Rej the you here refers to @Dr_Professor83 right?

also mafia vets, help me out. to mess up an investigation, you can bd the investigator or swap the intended target with a different person right? i dont know what that role is but is professor the person who's been messing with our investigations? im just throwing this out rn im not calling him scum or anything but yeah lets wait for his explanations. we already ha

Should I have?

Also Melon will be around later for vote counts and stuff.

 

[Lindltaylor]

I did too but apparently not. Arrow must be something else then. Idk double votes? Double action? Protect for the night?

Well Stand Creator does sound like a recruit ability that helps create stands. Anyway, you said that it's a 3 shot. So N1, N2 and N3. It was used all 3 nights but it failed on N3 since you absorbed it.

Don't know how you will use that ability though.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Well Stand Creator does sound like a recruit ability that helps create stands. Anyway, you said that it's a 3 shot. So N1, N2 and N3. It was used all 3 nights but it failed on N3 since you absorbed it.

Don't know how you will use that ability though.

Zara N1
N2 - ???
N3 - Me

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

My only problem with the Rhea lynch is that even if she's the SK, she can't take members from town and add them to her own like mafia can. So if we can reduce the cult's numbers that would be helpful too.

But I do think that it's the SK janitor killing all the townies. Let's wait for the Destroya claim before deciding the lynch?

Yeah I understand what you're saying. Hitting cult would be great too. And if the SK is responsible for these Janitor kills we also gotta remove them. I've placed my vote on Rhea now. I have no problem with switching it later if Dest looks worse when he claims.

 

[Rej]

Dr_Prof -> Tobi -> * -> Zara
Fuji -> Tobi -> *

I really don't like the unvotes here especally @Fruitji here

I know it may come biassed but damn...it was a critical DP where Zara gambled for a counterwagon on Tobi
but all in all there was no try to save Zara.

The failed wagonomization on Tobi raises red flags because Zara was already topic D1 and D2 and my claim could have covered Zara if mafia turned it around cleverly.

Zara was already kinda playing off, like almost...alone? Else why lie mechanically? Didn't mafia plan ahead their mechs?
I think mafia got caught offguard and offguard behaviour has to be analysed. I don't wanna believe that my boi Zara played worser than Midnight could have played this.

 

[Lindltaylor]

Oh god, then this would explain the Conq/Cal situation.

Ive been thinking that there was a severe lack of kills in a 20 player game and i remember discussing the possibility of there being an SK earlier.(Ratchet had to have been modblocked D2 and D3 due to their low post count)

Ratchet barely posted last phase but he was there i think D2 wasn’t he? And even if he wasn’t he was tagged and came around the time the Bus driving/redirect discussion was happening. Chances are high he might have seen them. But Destroya possibly being scum also goes along with what i said about people moving away from the Zara stuff D2 and even D1.


Also Melon will be around later for vote counts and stuff.

We still haven't decided on the lynch. Players are split between Destroya and Rhea, but Light and Dyna say Rhea is the way to go since her flip will confirm Destroya, more than a Destroya flip confirming Rhea.

 

[Hayumi]

So Dest has been trying to buddy me this whole time?
Let’s see what Dest claims since Rhea isn’t looking too hot. Two birds with one stone?

 

[ConquistadoR]

We will go after Con or Rhea

what did i do lol?

 

[Adam 🍎]

Two birds with one stone?

Question is which bird to splat first

 

[Lindltaylor]

Zara N1
N2 - ???
N3 - Me

Dest started off as mafia if Rhea is to be believed. So N2 could have been Hayumi or someone else? Fuji, Light, Juliet? Hayumi revealed his role to nat and was role crushed N2. Light was silenced and role crushed for a cycle on N2 as well.

Zara visited you night 1 and he claimed he had an invest ability on Day 1. Tbh, I'm thinking Zara started off as mafia rather than converted.

 

[Hayumi]

Dest started off as mafia if Rhea is to be believed. So N2 could have been Hayumi or someone else? Fuji, Light, Juliet? Hayumi revealed his role to nat and was role crushed N2. Light was silenced and role crushed for a cycle on N2 as well.

Zara visited you night 1 and he claimed he had an invest ability on Day 1. Tbh, I'm thinking Zara started off as mafia rather than converted.

Wait what.

Dest started off as mafia if Rhea is to be believed. So N2 could have been Hayumi or someone else? Fuji, Light, Juliet? Hayumi revealed his role to nat and was role crushed N2. Light was silenced and role crushed for a cycle on N2 as well.

Zara visited you night 1 and he claimed he had an invest ability on Day 1. Tbh, I'm thinking Zara started off as mafia rather than converted.

You’re saying I was converted N2?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Damn a lot happened after I went to sleep lol.

Vote Lynch Rhea

Dest may well be Scum, but there’s no way I can reconcile a Town sitting on that Cal information unless they were just throwing this game. And considering people seem to think SK’s are more dangerous than Mafia, I feel better lynching the probable SK here and sorting Dest out after.

 

[Lindltaylor]

Dest and Zara probably started off as mafia and had a 3-shot conversion ability. In which case, they converted someone N1 and N2. So they had 4 members and now have 3. We also have an SK running around. So 4 scum in total.

Hayumi revealed his role to nat and was role crushed N2. Light was silenced and role crushed for a cycle on N2 as well.

Going from this information, Destroya has to be the one with the role crush and silencing ability imo. So lynching Destroya would confirm that at least not both of Hayumi and Light are converted.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Dr_Prof -> Tobi -> * -> Zara
Fuji -> Tobi -> *

I really don't like the unvotes here especally @Fruitji here

I know it may come biassed but damn...it was a critical DP where Zara gambled for a counterwagon on Tobi
but all in all there was no try to save Zara.

The failed wagonomization on Tobi raises red flags because Zara was already topic D1 and D2 and my claim could have covered Zara if mafia turned it around cleverly.

Zara was already kinda playing off, like almost...alone? Else why lie mechanically? Didn't mafia plan ahead their mechs?
I think mafia got caught offguard and offguard behaviour has to be analysed. I don't wanna believe that my boi Zara played worser than Midnight could have played this.

Why don’t you like me switching off of Tobi?

 

[Lindltaylor]

Wait what.

You’re saying I was converted N2?

No no, I'm speculating. Don't worry, though. You definitely started off as town and were town until night 2. After that, it would get iffy.