I iso these 4 players you mentioned and odd is null. AL said you slipped and I don't know what the slip was that you did. The post I didn't like from AL was he said his take was Fuji is giving him exe vibes and then later he said nothing wrong with Fuji wanting to lynch Flower for no reason. This doesn't look like a town mindset to me since if he thinks that Fuji is exe who wants to lynch Flower then it shouldn't be okay for an exe to lynch their target. Some of Drago's arguments I like and in one of his posts it does look like he is solving. Drago is a town lean for me. krogo's posts are mainly fluff.
[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 2 - Town of Salem Test Take 2
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- Tags #drago is the scummiest scum #lampgrudge #lara #larimo #lris #lris is the worst player this game #mel voting her own husband? smh #pm'd bogard to delete the wris tags #tos is for people who can't play real mafia #wris #wris is the best player in this game al sama is scum is krogo sexually attracted to wolves lris is fanfiction wris is reality lynch drago scummy af lynchsopp why does mel never protect fuji why does zem like every post why hasn't lris been lynched yet why is lris surprised that she's the worst
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no ratchet this post is not indicative of anything but a comparison read i have over fuji this game vs last game, and in the post itself i mentioned that he could maybe change his playstle from last game, therefore my town read on him was very soft as the day started and required me to see more of his posts to solidify. stop trying to make it seem more than it actually is because if this is a mafia play, according to your standards, then the read wuda remained as it is: wishy washy at best. but, instead its now solidified into something tangible and a strong town read of fuji, which from your posts tell me that you have not read or skipped over. also u know that townies will have good and bad posts as well. the fact that such a post is in reality NAI and ur trying to dismiss that and make it seem as an inherently scummy post is weird. u cant tell me someone makes 99 townie posts and one post u consider scummy then u hang him for it. townies make more mistakes than scum, u cant just latch on their first mistake and ignore everything else they say. granted i dont even consider my post a mistake, i told u it was an early read that i solidified on and i dont see anything wrong with that. its a totally possible townie post to give slight town reads then build up on them. as for the shade, yea ur post was hella shade because of the timing. everyone at that time was questioning and voting me and i built up 6 or 7 votes, yet u randomly appear to quote one post and throw more fuel into that flame then leave. this is a type of shade as well, specially since around that time i wanted to leave and take a break.
Is this it? I've given arguments, I've given reasons, all of which are attackable if they're logically unsound. All scum hunting is founded on an assumption to some extent, it's a part of deductive reasoning after all. But what you haven't mentioned here is that I've acknowledged that the assumption here relies on you being scum, but I've gone through the deductive process because I've explained why it doesn't make much sense for your initial post to come from Town. By all means, if you can provide a reason for why a Townie would want to come up with a read that was, quite literally, "yes I think he's town, but maybe he could be scum too", then I'll happily concede provided I have no further objections to your reasoning. But you haven't done that. You've tried to downplay my arguments, to disregard them, and then attempted to throw suspicion my way all before you've made any effort to address what it is I'm saying.
Tbh I completely missed this post/forgot about it. Drago, you would ignore other suspicion to answer a question about you being inactive as town to such an extent? Come on.
If Lanji didn't quote it, I seriously would have forgotten it.
I won't be here at EoD. I say for now my vote goes to Xlaw.
Vote Lynch Xlaw @Zem
If Lanji didn't quote it, I seriously would have forgotten it.
I won't be here at EoD. I say for now my vote goes to Xlaw.
Vote Lynch Xlaw @Zem
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I am on page 43 right now. My read on Usopp is town.
Usopp's worst posts to me are these two where he deflected to someone else while responding to suspicion on him. Deflections are inherently suspicious and a bad thing to do. But I will refrain from suspecting Usopp just for this due to how commonly deflections are done by townies. It's naturally suspicious but not alignment indicative.
This post below from Usopp is very good.
I understand his logic in here perfectly and it makes a lot of sense. This leads me to my reason for town reading Usopp. He is town for his consistent townie progression. He has constantly defended himself and explained everything thrown at him logically in a way that would make sense for a townie to do. Case in point, Mel rescinded her scum read on Usopp after revising him, stating that he's been consistent. On the topic of Usopp throwing out town reads like candy. That's not suspicious for him to do. He's done it as town all the time and truth be told, never as scum. I know I said earlier that he can easily replicate that as scum, but fuck it, I'ma add it to the reasons for why he's town. The way he's playing the game bar for bar matches town Usopp.
Another reason why he's town is how he's defended himself. He was composed at the start, staying cool and collected, responding constructively to everyone who questioned him. He was not flustered. Then he slowly became more frustrating, specifically at Flower and Al as he believed they were coming at him with some bullshit. I agree with that(will explain below). Usopp's defense strikes me more as town defense than a scum defense.
Overall, the reasons to suspect Usopp, to be frank, suck. His "slips" are nonsense. I already explained why Flower's wasn't actually a slip. And really to me, Flower is just coming across as spiteful towards Usopp for him being happy about lynching a town Flower(which is a boost in her favor. Makes me town read her more, but it still wasn't a slip). Al's slip, I don't really understand. I get what Usopp was trying to say. If he, me, and Xlaw are scum but not together then logically, at least 2 of us are indies. What Usopp is saying is that none of us can be buddies together, ergo at least two of us have gotta be indies. That's the logic.
So yeah, Usopp is town. I would also like to really talk about somebody: Odd. That man is yikes all-around. I'll talk about him in a later post after I catch up.
Usopp's worst posts to me are these two where he deflected to someone else while responding to suspicion on him. Deflections are inherently suspicious and a bad thing to do. But I will refrain from suspecting Usopp just for this due to how commonly deflections are done by townies. It's naturally suspicious but not alignment indicative.
This post below from Usopp is very good.
I understand his logic in here perfectly and it makes a lot of sense. This leads me to my reason for town reading Usopp. He is town for his consistent townie progression. He has constantly defended himself and explained everything thrown at him logically in a way that would make sense for a townie to do. Case in point, Mel rescinded her scum read on Usopp after revising him, stating that he's been consistent. On the topic of Usopp throwing out town reads like candy. That's not suspicious for him to do. He's done it as town all the time and truth be told, never as scum. I know I said earlier that he can easily replicate that as scum, but fuck it, I'ma add it to the reasons for why he's town. The way he's playing the game bar for bar matches town Usopp.
Another reason why he's town is how he's defended himself. He was composed at the start, staying cool and collected, responding constructively to everyone who questioned him. He was not flustered. Then he slowly became more frustrating, specifically at Flower and Al as he believed they were coming at him with some bullshit. I agree with that(will explain below). Usopp's defense strikes me more as town defense than a scum defense.
Overall, the reasons to suspect Usopp, to be frank, suck. His "slips" are nonsense. I already explained why Flower's wasn't actually a slip. And really to me, Flower is just coming across as spiteful towards Usopp for him being happy about lynching a town Flower(which is a boost in her favor. Makes me town read her more, but it still wasn't a slip). Al's slip, I don't really understand. I get what Usopp was trying to say. If he, me, and Xlaw are scum but not together then logically, at least 2 of us are indies. What Usopp is saying is that none of us can be buddies together, ergo at least two of us have gotta be indies. That's the logic.
So yeah, Usopp is town. I would also like to really talk about somebody: Odd. That man is yikes all-around. I'll talk about him in a later post after I catch up.
the whole idea of town in day 1, or atleast in my understanding and playstyle, is to identify other townies and throw scum in PoE. when u say X player did this post "Y can be town, but they can be scum too" its something a townie can drop in the thread to give their initial read on player Y, and see how they react to it, then continue developing on that read as a way to build up a town pool. the only time, and i cant stress this enough to you, when that post is scummy is if the person that said it just leaves it as it is and doesnt build up on it. at that point yea, they r just feigning contribution and leaving a blank post in the thread that cant be tracked back to them because it doesnt really add any value. its posts like this that u cant look at alone ratched. u need to look at my entire posts as one context and see is it towny or not. do not just pick one or 2 and tell me this is towny, this isnt. u dont know what motive i have in mind unless u read the whole story. i am here moving the game forward and making interactions with players INCLUDING town reading players. i have made more than one post like the post i made about fuji maybe being town maybe not and i continue building on them as the game goes on. SO by that logic, the post is ONLY bad if its left alone and not continued, which is totally what isnt happening here
Once again, you've failed to actually address my point. It developing into a stronger read later isn't the issue here. The issue was your initial read was redundant and provided nothing. It was extremely awkward as early posts go. I see presenting information that basically adds nothing and tells us nothing, but acts like it does, as intrinsically scummy, not "NAI".
As for timing, I can't comment on that. You yourself have claimed I've only read three posts - if I'm that disengaged with the game then naturally the flow of the game is lost on me - you can't have it both ways. And finally, none of what you just said is "shade", is actually shade. I provided a pretty good example of it to you when describing how you've opted to read me in this game, the reason it is called "shade" is because it simply casts a poor light on what is being said without dismantling what is being said.
As for timing, I can't comment on that. You yourself have claimed I've only read three posts - if I'm that disengaged with the game then naturally the flow of the game is lost on me - you can't have it both ways. And finally, none of what you just said is "shade", is actually shade. I provided a pretty good example of it to you when describing how you've opted to read me in this game, the reason it is called "shade" is because it simply casts a poor light on what is being said without dismantling what is being said.
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you arent typically this aggressive particularly early on
which was why i said you are overcompensating
but dont dial it back
its a soft read and I dont think anyone is particularly pushing a vote rn . little reason to get defensive over it
you changing how you are scum-hunting tbh currently so that you will look better will be even more damning actually.
which was why i said you are overcompensating
but dont dial it back
its a soft read and I dont think anyone is particularly pushing a vote rn . little reason to get defensive over it
you changing how you are scum-hunting tbh currently so that you will look better will be even more damning actually.
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