[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 2 - Town of Salem Test Take 2

[Flower]

Aye aye partner.

Vote Lynch Odd.

Nah.

 

[Fujishiro]

Nah.

I follow Drago, he would never lie to me and backstab me.

 

[Emil]

Once again, you've failed to actually address my point. It developing into a stronger read later isn't the issue here. The issue was your initial read was redundant and provided nothing. It was extremely awkward as early posts go. I see presenting information that basically adds nothing and tells us nothing, but acts like it does, as intrinsically scummy, not "NAI".

As for timing, I can't comment on that. You yourself have claimed I've only read three posts - if I'm that disengaged with the game then naturally the flow of the game is lost on me - you can't have it both ways. And finally, none of what you just said is "shade", is actually shade. I provided a pretty good example of it to you when describing how you've opted to read me in this game, the reason it is called "shade" is because it simply casts a poor light on what is being said without dismantling what is being said.

no you are the one that fails to understand that the post is only weak alone, but has to be completed in a full clause. if i dropped that and dipped, yes im scum, but i dropped it and continued spectating fuji, seeing as how he is playing, then right after solidified the read on him. this isnt scummy ratchet, this is just a town speaking his mind out loud. again the post itself is NAI. if u look at it alone its scummy, if u look at it then follow the whole thought process behind it u will realize it rly isnt all that scummy because he totally build up on it and didnt just leave it like that. i mean the post LITERALLY just says fujis opener seem town cuz its different from the last game when he was scum but im wary he could be faking his style. THEN couple posts later i made it clear, nah fuji cant be mafia. he has to be just town or indie. this whole streamline is nothing but townish unless u think im dropping breadcrumbs of tmi on the thread for free as scum, which is then a different topic of wifom.

ratchet... this is pure shade because u ONLY focus on one thing and try to get me to be suspected for it, you dont see everything else. its a tunnel AND a shade both dropped in one. if you admit that u r missing the gameflow then i urge you to go back and read b4 we can continue this because it literally has no value if u havent read my posts

 

[Fujishiro]

Also seems like he got some reason for voting him. Lets wait on them.

 

[AL sama]

Tbh, Ratchet posts text walls as scum, town or any alignment. Nobody here has played with Prime ratchet other than Drago, AL and myself, but Ratchet would usually post A LOT of text walls each day.

yeah this is nothing compared to what he used to do tbh

 

[Fujishiro]

no you are the one that fails to understand that the post is only weak alone, but has to be completed in a full clause. if i dropped that and dipped, yes im scum, but i dropped it and continued spectating fuji, seeing as how he is playing, then right after solidified the read on him. this isnt scummy ratchet, this is just a town speaking his mind out loud. again the post itself is NAI. if u look at it alone its scummy, if u look at it then follow the whole thought process behind it u will realize it rly isnt all that scummy because he totally build up on it and didnt just leave it like that. i mean the post LITERALLY just says fujis opener seem town cuz its different from the last game when he was scum but im wary he could be faking his style. THEN couple posts later i made it clear, nah fuji cant be mafia. he has to be just town or indie. this whole streamline is nothing but townish unless u think im dropping breadcrumbs of tmi on the thread for free as scum, which is then a different topic of wifom.

ratchet... this is pure shade because u ONLY focus on one thing and try to get me to be suspected for it, you dont see everything else. its a tunnel AND a shade both dropped in one. if you admit that u r missing the gameflow then i urge you to go back and read b4 we can continue this because it literally has no value if u havent read my posts

Is this the Tiffany vs Usopp of this game

 

[Flower]

Why are there text walls? I ain‘t reading all that.

 

[Flower]

I follow Drago, he would never lie to me and backstab me.

Not feeling the Odd lynch, though. He hasn‘t shown any scum tells yet.

 

[Melontonin]

Why are there text walls? I ain‘t reading all that.

Only text-wallers would read text walls.

Gonna keep my vote on Al, not sure why people want Xlaw's head?

 

[Emil]

i rly think if xlaw is scum, hes not part of the mafia. at worst an indie

we shud w8 for him to be here atleast b4 yeeting imo

 

[Ratchet]

the whole idea of town in day 1, or atleast in my understanding and playstyle, is to identify other townies and throw scum in PoE. when u say X player did this post "Y can be town, but they can be scum too" its something a townie can drop in the thread to give their initial read on player Y, and see how they react to it, then continue developing on that read as a way to build up a town pool. the only time, and i cant stress this enough to you, when that post is scummy is if the person that said it just leaves it as it is and doesnt build up on it. at that point yea, they r just feigning contribution and leaving a blank post in the thread that cant be tracked back to them because it doesnt really add any value. its posts like this that u cant look at alone ratched. u need to look at my entire posts as one context and see is it towny or not. do not just pick one or 2 and tell me this is towny, this isnt. u dont know what motive i have in mind unless u read the whole story. i am here moving the game forward and making interactions with players INCLUDING town reading players. i have made more than one post like the post i made about fuji maybe being town maybe not and i continue building on them as the game goes on. SO by that logic, the post is ONLY bad if its left alone and not continued, which is totally what isnt happening here

No Usopp. Townies can attempt tosolve the game by finding fellow Townies, sure. But "you might be town, but you might be scum" is the same as saying nothing. It doesn't establish that the post it is referring to is town-like, because while saying it seems town-like, it also deters people from latching onto it as a town read by giving an example of how it could come from scum too. It's completely redundant, which is why it makes more sense to come from scum than Town. Let me provide some hypotheticals -

Usopp is Town, Fuji is ???
In this example, Usopp has saw behaviour from Fuji he feels is town-like. It's not a strong read, though. For some reason, Usopp immediately discredits his thought process, leaving him back where he started, and then posts it, because apparently we needed to know this. This is very unsound.

Usopp is Scum, Fuji is Town (or Scum that Usopp
In this example, Usopp is trying to ingratiate himself with the thread, and needs this as a launching point. He doesn't want other people to town read Fuji, because that would make Fuji harder to potentially mislynch, but he wants to have a post he can point back to later on if people feel like Usopp isn't really looking at who could be town. This makes sense as scum play. Also, if Fuji ends up dead, Usopp has an "accurate" read to his name, which would potentially give his other reads more credibility.

Usopp is Scum, Fuji is Scum (with Usopp)
In this example, Usopp is trying to kill several birds with one stone. He is putting out content with a partner of his, because avoiding partners is a giveaway if one of the two flip scum, but he also doesn't want to go too far with town reading his buddy, because if he does, then his reads may later be called into question should Fuji be lynched or killed. This way, if someone points back to this post, Usopp can point out he acknowledged it could come from scum.

I've actually thought through all of these before I said anything, which is why my conclusion is "this comes from scum".

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Wasn't that in the previous ToS game? You said you won't come back after you've been "outed". But apparently, it's angle shooting. So let's just leave this.

I dont think he specifically "dipped " this dp tho
he wasnt even gone for too long

 

[Emil]

Tbh, Ratchet posts text walls as scum, town or any alignment. Nobody here has played with Prime ratchet other than Drago, AL and myself, but Ratchet would usually post A LOT of text walls each day.

So read Ratchet from his contents and posts.


In Rej's game, he was a survivor - Perespero, I think. So you can't really use that against him.


What do you mean Effort? There is no effort there, Al. It's saying it as how I saw it. You have to explain your effort to me, Al. What do you think Ekko is exactly? Mafia? or Indie? I never saw you make a conclusion on his alignment.

ratchet was playing on NF too, i agree he makes walls of text regardless of alignment

and no i meant rej's hololive game. i dont think u played it tho

 

[Flower]

Only text-wallers would read text walls.

Gonna keep my vote on Al, not sure why people want Xlaw's head?

I didn‘t like how he apparently thought Fuji was scummy, but then pushed for my claim when I was the one being pushed by his supposed scum lean. Makes no sense to do that. Felt like opprtunistic scum trying to role fish.

 

[Ratchet]

Overall, the reasons to suspect Usopp, to be frank, suck. His "slips" are nonsense.

I love how you've made this sweeping, blasé statement, without actually mentioning anything I've said on the matter whatsoever. Duly noted, Drago.

 

[Dragomir]

I love how you've made this sweeping, blasé statement, without actually mentioning anything I've said on the matter whatsoever. Duly noted, Drago.

What? I didn't even see you say anything on the matter of Usopp's slips.

 

[Flower]

@Ratchet what are your reads?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Changing how I'm scum hunting? What are you talking about? Where did I say in that post about dialing it back? I just wanted to defend myself over the baseless accusations about me being lazy as town.

thinking out loud in that last comment
I dont think you changed how you scumhunt, but if you were to do so .


the first four lines were my direct response to you
I think you are more laid back as town.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Unvote
Vote Lynch Oddoddfruit

If you want a scum lynch, join me on an Odd wagon.

why

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

@Light D Lamperouge any thoughts on the game, scum?

@Light D Lamperouge are u town? pls thoughts as well, specially on melon/odd/AL/drago

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I am town.

Lemon seems to be too outgoing and putting herself out there arguing with multiple people and pushing back against the Flowa lynch. Don't think she'd be playing this way as scum. Compared to the last TOS game where she barely posted and wasn't really going at it with players, this game is the opposite. So a slight town lean.

AL. LOL. His tunneling feels ingenuine and forced af. He isn't explaining the supposed slip properly and isn't really being cooperative.

Odd. I am looking at his post and there really isn't much there. He's focusing solely on Sussop, and voted him on the first page off of Susopp's answer about who is scum.


Drago. Had plenty of interactions with various players. One thing I didn't like is his excuse about the other game. Has defended Susopp and Fuji. I read his text on why he believes Susopp is town. Imma put him null for now and let's see what he does with the Odd case.

Light probably just scum again, anyway. I've forgotten what town Light is even.

Don't worry Lindie. It's town Light SZN.