Speculations Were Sanji and Marco no match for King and Queen?

[ConquistadoR]

the japanese text of sanji speaking goes like "2人キツイな" (futari wa kitsui na) which translates as "the two of them are tough"
im not an expert in japanese.
but to my understanding it pretty much alludes to what sanji is going to do if no help arrives rather than what he did before.
especially when you put it in the context that the samurai/beast pirates fodder were asking about who's going to save them from king and queen like in the previous panel.

 

[M944]

For a little while yes. It's not specified how much but I guess probably not much because the story was pretty prompt in shifting it to the tag team scenario.

Yeah we don't know how much time.
It's just to clear the situation

 

[Roronoa-sama]

ling>marco + sanji

 

[ConquistadoR]

For a little while yes. It's not specified how much but I guess probably not much because the story was pretty prompt in shifting it to the tag team scenario.

not just the time.

in every translation sanji says that fighting two of them is tough. right after the samurai ask who's going to save us and they go to him.
even the japanese one says that fighting the two of them is tough.

whether it means that he fought the two of them before? or does it mean that he is planning on fighting the two of them to save the samurai?

that is the ambiguous part.

 

[Zaretball]

Sanji fought the two of them alone. A fresh Marco and Sanji would likely destroy the calamities.

 

[M944]

the japanese text of sanji speaking goes like "2人キツイな" (futari wa kitsui na) which translates as "the two of them are tough"
im not an expert in japanese.
but to my understanding it pretty much alludes to what sanji is going to do if no help arrives rather than what he did before.
especially when you put it in the context that the samurai/beast pirates fodder were asking about who's going to save them from king and queen like in the previous panel.

I checked you translated it with google translate
It won't be accurate

 

[ConquistadoR]

I checked you translated it with google translate

bruh LOL

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanji fought the two of them alone. A fresh Marco and Sanji would likely destroy the calamities.

Sanji got destroyed ; base king who seems clean defeated marco.........yeas zoan queen for some time attacked marco and then switched to chopper and sanji

 

[M944]

bruh LOL

That's exactly what we get when we use google translate
They have several people who understand japanese in this forum and 2 translation from 2 website based on 2 different country ?
No one use your translation

 

[ConquistadoR]

I checked you translated it with google translate
It won't be accurate

futari wa kitsui na ~ literally translates as that lol.
when you put it in the context ~ it can mean that fighting the two of them is gonna be tough especially since sanji is fighting against them.
does it mean that he fought them before? that part im not really sure.

btw i translated that myself lol. im not an expert in japanese but i did complete a couple of japanese courses at university.

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That's exactly what we get when we use google translate
They have several people who understand japanese in this forum and 2 translation from 2 website based on 2 different country ?
No one use your translation

dude show a single translation that says that he fought the two of them before.
all that line says is "fighting the two of them is tough/rough".

im not a translator but you're just blindly attacking me for trying to provide context.

 

[Finalbeta]

ling>marco + sanji

I would not go that far but he is likely stronger than both individually yeah lol.

 

[BleakAsh]

> he says and i quote: "fighting the both of them together is kinda rough" alluding that if marco isnt up or if no other help arrives, he will take them on 2v1. he never says he fought the two of them before. the way i understood that line, it felt like sanji was describing what he was going to do at that moment not what he did prior to that.

he precisely says "CRAP, fighting both of them is though" this isn't a hypothetical situation addressed here.. he wouldn't exclaim how hard it is fighting them (present tense ) by whining about it say CRAP he would have said " it will be " if he wanted to state a hypothetical situation

sanji then tells chooper to run for it since the medicine doesn't seem to work , then after king approches zoro sanji after kicking queen away ( you can see that in the dust raised after sanji kick in the reticle perspero prepares to shoot an arrow on sanji with ) approaches king to defend zoro from that blow before marco arrives with his flames.

if he wasn't fighting both he wouldn't be approaching king .

 

[Zaretball]

Sanji got destroyed ; base king who seems clean defeated marco.........yeas zoan queen for some time attacked marco and then switched to chopper and sanji

Sanji was fine, he didn't receive any serious injuries against both of them. Actually Sanji is in better shape than Luffy when he received Apoo's attack. Sanji Rs and Marco mid diff the calamities in my opnion.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanji was fine, he didn't receive any serious injuries against both of them. Actually Sanji is in better shape than Luffy when he received Apoo's attack. Sanji Rs and Marco mid diff the calamities in my opnion.

Bro Lanji barely fought them at best ; Nah Hybrid king extreme diffs Marco and then beats tired RS sanji after he beats queen

 

[ConquistadoR]

sanji then tells chooper to run for it since the medicine doesn't seem to work , then after king approches zoro sanji after kicking queen away ( you can see that in the dust raised after sanji kick in the reticle perspero prepares to shoot an arrow on sanji with ) approaches king to defend zoro from that blow before marco arrives with his flames.

he tells chopper to run because he knows that the fight is disadvantageous. he knows that taking 2v1 is tough which is why he tells that to chopper.

if he wasn't fighting both he wouldn't be approaching king .

he approached king to protect zoro, chopper, mink. this isnt indicative of anything.

 

[kom5]

Lol Marco was first down then Sanji fought them two vs one and got down

Marco fought them for a period of time alone and held them back

I would love to see King vs Marco and Vista

 

[Garp the Fist]

If it was a 2 vs 1 I’d figure that Sanji would be pictured lying in front of both of them instead of over on Queen’s side.

Before this chapter it was Marco vs King and Sanji vs Queen, at the start if this chapter they are both lying on the ground, my assumption would be that King knocked down Marco and Sanji was knocked down by Queen. Then when they both get back up it is again Sanji matching up with Queen and Marco with King.

I don’t think that Marco would be lying on the ground for any great length of time just letting Sanji get battered around by two Calamities. He got up quick enough when Zoro was in danger.

 

[ConquistadoR]

he precisely says "CRAP, fighting both of them is though" this isn't a hypothetical situation addressed here.. he wouldn't exclaim how hard it is fighting them (present tense ) by whining about it say CRAP he would have said " it will be " if he wanted to state a hypothetical situation

again that is indicative of nothing.
the translation is simply, "fighting the two of them is hard"
when you put it in the context where the samurai/fodder are asking for help, it really does seem like he's describing his opponents in that 2v1 he's about to undertake.

it can also mean what you are implying.

all im saying is that part is left ambiguous and it isnt clear.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Lol Marco was first down then Sanji fought them two vs one and got down

Marco fought them for a period of time alone and held them back

I would love to see King vs Marco and Vista

--All zoan queen has is single laser attack which is very easy to dodge and queen fought for 30 mins or so ; after he fought chopper and sanji then

--Base/zoan king and zoan queen vs Marco for 30 Mins or so then Base king vs Marco where king seems fine and marco defeated

--Hybrid king can fight vs Marco with some buff as king didn't used hybrid and Vista with one sword as Queen never used hybrid for 30 Mins

 

[ConquistadoR]

he precisely says "CRAP, fighting both of them is though" this isn't a hypothetical situation addressed here.. he wouldn't exclaim how hard it is fighting them (present tense ) by whining about it say CRAP he would have said " it will be " if he wanted to state a hypothetical situation

that crap is the translation of kuso.
it means a lot of things from damn, to crap and its a common swear word.