Current Events The growth of the Straw Hats is honestly ridiculous.
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He wasn’t though. He got his leg handed to him by Vergo and got manhandled by Daifuku back in WCI. There is also a scene of him shitting his pants when Oven got enraged. He was way way way below Veteran level fighters and in a week or two, he went from being a NW fodder to be able to hold two YCs and come out relatively unharmed.
Look, I admit it, Sanji is extremely talented and has the innate ability to improve quite significantly between short spans of time, but this is definitely a power creep situation.
Look, I admit it, Sanji is extremely talented and has the innate ability to improve quite significantly between short spans of time, but this is definitely a power creep situation.
That is how power creep can work in a shonen story and for One Piece it's something I had to accept for a long time as reality. We have pirates from the old era (WB, Roger, BM etc.) who in no way shape or form would amount to doing these crazy miracle things at the ages of 19 - 21 as these SH would. Roger stayed in the east blue for a long time and sailed for several years without knowledge of a final island like laugh tale or the poneglypths. Kaido especially took DECADES to climb the ladder, facing numerous hurdles on his way till the present and now all his work is being undone by the raid.
The new generation in OP is always faster, stronger, better than the previous one in terms of growth and endgame potential..and this has been a theme for a long time in the story. In fact, it's been showcased as far back as Alabasta. I also see people say the same thing on characters such as Koby becoming powerful in a short span of time because he/they are meant to rival Luffy in a way...and that presents its own debates.
"When Kaidou appeared for the first time, I said that Luffy can't defeat such a strong character yet. And I'm yet to know how Luffy would defeat Kaidou. Probably my audience will not be satisfied if the reason for defeating Kaidou is just because Luffy's punch is so strong. Luffy and I have to find a solution somehow." - One Piece Great Newspaper Vol 2. (Oda Interview)
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The new generation in OP is always faster, stronger, better than the previous one in terms of growth and endgame potential..and this has been a theme for a long time in the story. In fact, it's been showcased as far back as Alabasta. I also see people say the same thing on characters such as Koby becoming powerful in a short span of time because he/they are meant to rival Luffy in a way...and that presents its own debates.
"When Kaidou appeared for the first time, I said that Luffy can't defeat such a strong character yet. And I'm yet to know how Luffy would defeat Kaidou. Probably my audience will not be satisfied if the reason for defeating Kaidou is just because Luffy's punch is so strong. Luffy and I have to find a solution somehow." - One Piece Great Newspaper Vol 2. (Oda Interview)
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It's all relative. The point is that to a freshly out of east blue Luffy with no haki and only a few months sailing the sea, Crocodile might as well have been as threatening as Kaido is to current Luffy, but the story ultimately found a way to have Luffy defeat him.
The SH have been monsters taking the world by storm and not following a conventional path to being pirates since the very beginning.
The SH have been monsters taking the world by storm and not following a conventional path to being pirates since the very beginning.
Of course it's relative, Luffy is much stronger now than he was in Alabasta.
The gap between Alabasta Luffy and Crocodile being comparable to the gap between current Luffy and Kaido is what's what i'm arguing and i don't see why you say it makes no sense.
It's like if i told you the gap between 0 and 10 is the same as the gap between 90 and 100 and you were just like "BUT 100 IS A LARGER NUMBER THAN 10 THAT MAKES NO SENSE".
The gap between Alabasta Luffy and Crocodile being comparable to the gap between current Luffy and Kaido is what's what i'm arguing and i don't see why you say it makes no sense.
It's like if i told you the gap between 0 and 10 is the same as the gap between 90 and 100 and you were just like "BUT 100 IS A LARGER NUMBER THAN 10 THAT MAKES NO SENSE".
These guys are actually massive morons.
"Went from Hody Jones to fighting Kaido"
Was Hody Jones ever on Luffy's level? It's like saying Luffy went from fighting Holdem to fighting Kaido in 2 weeks. Wtf? Hody was just there to showcase Luffy's new skills.
"Sanji lost to Doflamingo but is hurting Queen"
Yes, because Doflamingo is clearly stronger than Queen to anyone with eyes. All he did was parasite Sanji, like he parasited Jozu, a guy >= Queen.
The problem is you're shit at powerscaling not that SHs are getting massive boosts.
"Went from Hody Jones to fighting Kaido"
Was Hody Jones ever on Luffy's level? It's like saying Luffy went from fighting Holdem to fighting Kaido in 2 weeks. Wtf? Hody was just there to showcase Luffy's new skills.
"Sanji lost to Doflamingo but is hurting Queen"
Yes, because Doflamingo is clearly stronger than Queen to anyone with eyes. All he did was parasite Sanji, like he parasited Jozu, a guy >= Queen.
The problem is you're shit at powerscaling not that SHs are getting massive boosts.
There is a simple explanation for this. Luffy was already a YC2 level after timeskip. He already had the techniques Boundman which defeated Doffy and Snakeman which defeated Katakuri. But he just never used them against Hody not Ceasar. And to reach the level he is now‚ he spent it training for weeks in a prison‚ fighting Katakuri for 12 hours and finally facing two Yonkoi head on.
Its funny how people are catching on to the SH powerjumps NOW when Luffy and Zoro who couldn't do much to Lucci who has been training and fighting far longer was able to be on par with him and CP9 the next morning. Powercreep is an issue with every shonen I know of and OP aint that different.
Luffy v Arlong made sense since luffy was monsterably strong by the end of the first chapter cause he spent a whole decade harnessing his devil fruit powers. Even crocodile who relied entirely on his devil fruit alone was just a abnormaly strong guy without it
I know Wanos been a long one but this along with the fact we didnt see P1 for the rest of act 2 definitely signals that sanji was the victor here
Luffy v Arlong made sense since luffy was monsterably strong by the end of the first chapter cause he spent a whole decade harnessing his devil fruit powers. Even crocodile who relied entirely on his devil fruit alone was just a abnormaly strong guy without it
I know Wanos been a long one but this along with the fact we didnt see P1 for the rest of act 2 definitely signals that sanji was the victor here
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