Future Events POLL: Is the Zoro vs King fight good or bad for Zoro
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Its just another case of Oda nerfing Zoro badly soo he could fight someone that is weaker than him...This time he got hurt blocking a combination atack made by two yonkos.
In any case, i dont think King will be his last fight in the arc.
In any case, i dont think King will be his last fight in the arc.
There is no nerf right now, the nerf comes later when he will be taking double the damage once the meds wear off.
After seeing the level of Katakuri I don’t have much faith in King being far stronger.
Well Oda can just nerf Zoro like always and the fight can be somewhat interesting but it would have been better if Aida had Zoro fight Kaido to buy time for Luffy and then getting back up to land a heavy hit in Kaido before Luffy goes G4 and Kaido also goes all out for their final clash.
For me Zoro fighting King is a waste since Zoro will win, it’s not like the Sanji vs Queen fight were we don’t know how Sanji will win in the end that’s why that fight will be interesting but with the Zoro vs King fight it will be boring since we already know Zoro level.
Well Oda can just nerf Zoro like always and the fight can be somewhat interesting but it would have been better if Aida had Zoro fight Kaido to buy time for Luffy and then getting back up to land a heavy hit in Kaido before Luffy goes G4 and Kaido also goes all out for their final clash.
For me Zoro fighting King is a waste since Zoro will win, it’s not like the Sanji vs Queen fight were we don’t know how Sanji will win in the end that’s why that fight will be interesting but with the Zoro vs King fight it will be boring since we already know Zoro level.
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Zoro will win in almost every single situation except when he is fighting someone beyond his skill level. Nothing has changed.
Zoro fighting Kaido seems impressive until you consider the fact that there were 5 supernova present during that fight. In reality all of them would have failed instantly had they decided to face Kaido on their own. Same would be true if you were to put 5 YC1 against Kaido. The end result would have been the same. In truth the gap people see isn't really that significant between YC1's and the Rooftop 5.
Zoro fighting Kaido seems impressive until you consider the fact that there were 5 supernova present during that fight. In reality all of them would have failed instantly had they decided to face Kaido on their own. Same would be true if you were to put 5 YC1 against Kaido. The end result would have been the same. In truth the gap people see isn't really that significant between YC1's and the Rooftop 5.
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Since it's just a warm up for him before he goes after his particualr Round 2 against Kaido then it's a pretty good match in my opinion.
I also assume he'll finish this fight fairly quickly based on him already going shirtless which means 100% all out and not having to focus on defending others and putting his line on the line for them like he did on the rooftop.
Once he is done with King he'll be a much better CoC user too
I also assume he'll finish this fight fairly quickly based on him already going shirtless which means 100% all out and not having to focus on defending others and putting his line on the line for them like he did on the rooftop.
Once he is done with King he'll be a much better CoC user too
Why do you want Zoro to get his ass kicked again so badly? 
At least now he is fighting someone who he is capable of beating like King. After his brief clash with Kaido it was made clear that even with Zoro's best shot delivered with a bit of CoC boost it would not be enough to do anything significant to Kaido. Beyond scarring him what did it accomplish? Did it slow him down? Did it weaken him at all?
It's as though your expecting Zoro to magically pull out some sort of power he does not yet fully comprehend to try and beat Kaido.
It's not gonna happen this arc.
At least now he is fighting someone who he is capable of beating like King. After his brief clash with Kaido it was made clear that even with Zoro's best shot delivered with a bit of CoC boost it would not be enough to do anything significant to Kaido. Beyond scarring him what did it accomplish? Did it slow him down? Did it weaken him at all?
It's as though your expecting Zoro to magically pull out some sort of power he does not yet fully comprehend to try and beat Kaido.
It's not gonna happen this arc.
Also, it seems you don't understand my thought. I want Zoro to remain his integrity. He has a huge ambition, he wants to fight strong one, and he already has a bold announcement. Somehow, he injects time bomb and fight King? This ruins character in my opinion.
I prefer Zoro to try fighting Kaido again with Luffy, learn something like the time he fought mr1, and then beat Kaido together.
And I am also tired of Luffy's command bullshit. If it is a thing, Zoro wouldn't declare and went to the roof at the first place after Luffy told everyone to handle the rest. It is clear that Zoro has his own ambition and don't listen Luffy in this case.
This fight will be legendary like the Zoro vs Mr 1 or at least on Zoro vs Kaku and Zoro vs Ryumaa level, a great 1v1 against a Swordman. Can't get anymore better than that.
Most people who are disappointed in the fight is because Zoro doesn't get to get back to Kaidou, not because the fight itself is bad
Most people who are disappointed in the fight is because Zoro doesn't get to get back to Kaidou, not because the fight itself is bad
Yes but before Zoro would have to work hard to win but now after seeing his feats, we already know he is stronger than King so there is no suspense on how he would need to surpass himself to win, all he needs to do now is just land a clean hits and it’s gg. nothing exciting about that 😢
Yes the gap between the WG5 on the roof and a YC1 shouldn’t be too much but we have already seen Katakuri before, if we use him as a measuring stick for King then how is he going to challenge Zoro who has already shown on the roof he is above that level?
That’s why I think Oda won’t make Zoro 100% for this fight since if he was in top shape then it would be impossible for King.
Yes the gap between the WG5 on the roof and a YC1 shouldn’t be too much but we have already seen Katakuri before, if we use him as a measuring stick for King then how is he going to challenge Zoro who has already shown on the roof he is above that level?
That’s why I think Oda won’t make Zoro 100% for this fight since if he was in top shape then it would be impossible for King.
Zoro's own words on the lack of reaction to Asura should be evidence enough that the attack while it manage to break skin wasn't enough to drop Kaido . We've seen Luffy's attacks in base have more affect on slowing Kaido down than what Asura accomplished.
Zoro failed to do anything significant despite throwing his all into that attack. That should be evidence enough as to why he left it up to Luffy. He is the only one capable of taking Kaido out atm.
When was it confirmed that Zoro surpassed Katakuri or King?
He certainly has the attack power. But does he have the power to fight someone who can see his every move before it happens? Katakuri is still very fast. He has Future Sight which he is more proficient at than Luffy ever was. Not to mention the fact that his armament is no joke. Only reason Luffy overcame Katakuri was due partly to plot armor and the fact that he had to develop his own FS to counter him. It's not so simple as just having better AP.
Katakuri and Kaido are very different in how they fight. He's not just going to sit there and allow Zoro to take shots at him. Same goes for King.
Zoro failed to do anything significant despite throwing his all into that attack. That should be evidence enough as to why he left it up to Luffy. He is the only one capable of taking Kaido out atm.
When was it confirmed that Zoro surpassed Katakuri or King?
He certainly has the attack power. But does he have the power to fight someone who can see his every move before it happens? Katakuri is still very fast. He has Future Sight which he is more proficient at than Luffy ever was. Not to mention the fact that his armament is no joke. Only reason Luffy overcame Katakuri was due partly to plot armor and the fact that he had to develop his own FS to counter him. It's not so simple as just having better AP.
Katakuri and Kaido are very different in how they fight. He's not just going to sit there and allow Zoro to take shots at him. Same goes for King.
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All of you pushing that King cant do anything to Zoro would look ẽxtremely dumb when King will deal some major damage to him. No one bar a Yonkou can 1 shot a YC1 without sufferinh some damage. Even current Luffy will take at least a mid điff to defeat King. It will take no less than a High diff for Zoro to defeat King.
So my advice? Stop downplaying King or overrating Zoro and just enjoy a good swordmanship fight between them.
So my advice? Stop downplaying King or overrating Zoro and just enjoy a good swordmanship fight between them.
The fight is bad because :
-There was no set up for it even tho we are in a +100
-Zoro is not fighting because King is a swordsman but because Marco gave up
-Zoro is not fighting King to get close to his dream but to get Luffy close to his one
-King has no swordsmanship hype
-King has no hype whatsoever because he is the less developed Calamity
-Zoro already know how to cut fire therefore there is nothing he can learn from King
The issue is not a powerlevel one but a character one.
-There was no set up for it even tho we are in a +100
-Zoro is not fighting because King is a swordsman but because Marco gave up
-Zoro is not fighting King to get close to his dream but to get Luffy close to his one
-King has no swordsmanship hype
-King has no hype whatsoever because he is the less developed Calamity
-Zoro already know how to cut fire therefore there is nothing he can learn from King
The issue is not a powerlevel one but a character one.
honestly if he face Kaido Again 2v1 or 1000 v 1 (im not in zkk club i even don't care even if he get destroyed again i just don't like to see him as a bitch that forgot his own world after getting beaten and pass it to luffy he is ok right now so no i don't think there us any excuse) i don't have that much of problem with the fight other than having no set up (legit before 1023 they didn't even have any interaction) also for some reason king has very little screen time until now oda failed to develop him in this ark even some of f6 get more screen time than him he suppose to be one of most important executives of enemy side but we barley saw any thing from him both character wise and power wise
about fight it self i don't care how difficult of fight it will be i want for him to gain some thing in this fight for example:
1. Fully mastering enma
2. improving his fire cutting skill
3. learn how he can deal with a flying and fast fighter with out help (learning gepo or something)
and etc
i want exact same thing for sanji i hope he improve his Haki in this fight
i wanted same thing for every SHP so far only robin improved her fighting style
honestly i think 5 1styc could fight better than 5sn in roof other than luffy and zoro i don't think any of roof top sn can beat a 1styc
about fight it self i don't care how difficult of fight it will be i want for him to gain some thing in this fight for example:
1. Fully mastering enma
2. improving his fire cutting skill
3. learn how he can deal with a flying and fast fighter with out help (learning gepo or something)
and etc
i want exact same thing for sanji i hope he improve his Haki in this fight
i wanted same thing for every SHP so far only robin improved her fighting style
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honestly i think 5 1styc could fight better than 5sn in roof other than luffy and zoro i don't think any of roof top sn can beat a 1styc
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