Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1023 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

Wanji the lord and savior decided to bless us with some sun god presence today. Bask in the glory. No more Ls for sanji. Only Ws and equal footing. Always and forever

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2180 with sanji heavily nerfed

Tagging @Finalbeta because he's a hater and knows its the truth

Don't slander me, I don't hate any character. Or face the consequences.

 

[RayanOO]

Before Zoro met Luffy he was quite the fodder in east blue for while and he would probably die a nobody there.
Zoro is where he is because of him and himself only (and of course the whole adventure he went on with Luffy).
You are insulting Zoro's whole journey because of a 800 year blood relation. That ain't it.

Obviously the SH worked and trained and suffered hardships etc.

But now with Luffy being a prophecy child, Zoro being linked to Ryuma etc it felt like if they were all destined from day one to become what they became.

The two Sword GOD and strongest swordmen in history being from the same family is a problem for me.

 

[BillSlipton]

who ever said that red roc is only a fire based attack? Acoa is also in the mix and the fire sanji and king generate haven't been liked to haki at all... red rock is a whole different thing.. its miniature version is no different luffy has to go gear 2 to generate fire which isn't spontaneous that in of itself is a distinction from sanji and king's fire .

And oda wanting to go the route you mention is honestly alright even i ahve considered this assumption but the evidence at hand doesn't make that plausible.. judge himself said that he gave his children abilities that can be enhanced through training...,but we never knew what sanji's ability was .. but now this development proves multitude of things.. which include how sanji can generate fire spontaneously (which seems unlikely to Queen unless "lineage factor"), sanji needing friction at first to generate the fire and even then in enies lobby he linked it to his personal sentiments rather than friction itself meaning he wasn't able to fully use DJ or his flames handily due to him being a failure at first , we still don't know if sanji's main ability was conjuring fire from get got but sanji incorporated it ingenuously in DJ ,this could mean if sanji wasn't a falure and the lineage factor or his genetic alterations werent' sabotaged by his mom he would have has an exceptional control over his flames..but even that doesn't change the fact that he can manipulate them using his emotions and intensify them after the TS so now he has a very versatile control over them .. Queen regards sanji's flames as weak is coz he hasn't seen them go intense well hell even we have to see the extent sanji could take his flames to.. and sanji feeling this way can also indicate that his dormant genes are awakening due to the RS coded to him and the RS may boost his fire just like it enables his siblings to do much more with their suits .


i read your thread and you shouldn't be surprised that i dont' necessarily agree with it .

"Fishman- Fishman karate, Water
- Minks- Electro, electricity
- Giants- Elbaf Spear, Wind
- Tontatta- Plant growth, Earth
- King’s race - fire"


- FMK is a type of martial arts that human can master as well since they are humans but its not race exclusive
- Elbaf's spear is not something inherent to one's race
- Tontatta botany is a skill and expertise thing tho it may be culturally exclusive ..its not an inherent ability
- we have seen many fire based users in one-piece but all have distinctions and contrasts to how they get executed compared to how king and sanji manipulate fire

-Hannyabal uses it on his katana but not on himself
- Pearl from baratie exudes blue flames by instinct when he was in a jungle in his childhood
- Zoro too used it on mr 4 on his blades but not on his body
-luffy has to go gear 2 and exert alot to combust his hand but he cannot in theory do the same in his base

how are they any different from sanji and king you may ask ?

if you refer to the official translation of the latest chapter that there was a race that would "Burst into flames "
the only person we know that has done that sorta thing is sanji via HM and combust his leg into flames something very exclusive to that specific race .

Where'd you get the info about pearl if you don't mind me asking👀

 

[faker]

Zoro fans say Enma is a training tool and laugh at Sanji

It turns out that combat clothing is the training tool

 

[Zowo]

Go goggle….

nah post it u talked about it show the proof

 

[Hahasanji]

Sanji: After wearing the Raid Suit for the second time, my body becomes...
Zoro: Don't hold back.
Sanji: It's not that it's bad, it just feels "weird".

Something strange seems to be happening to Sanji and he says it/he doesn't necessarily feel bad but rather "weird"
After that we get a close up of the fire on Sanji's leg(s)



ZORO TOLD SANJI DON'T HOLD BACK JUST LET ALL THE FIRE OUT OF HIS LEGS

Black fire Sanji soon

 

[BillSlipton]

Don't slander me, I don't hate any character. Or face the consequences.

Oh noooooooo the consequences

 

[Kromage911]

The problem is that Luffy has a bunch of actual prophecies about what he is going to happen, just like Jesus and Naruto

you can't see the difference?

nobody IN the story is saying there's a prophecy about another Shimotsuki doing the exact same thing Ryuma did, there's nothing about that, if there was people would be hyped as fuck to find a Shimotsuki to kill Kaido.

Luffy is the one destined / full of prophecies, just like Jesus, to do something.

Kaido was prophesied to be defeated in 20 years. If ZKK happens, isn't Zoro a part of the prophecy itself?

 

[Peroroncino]

Zoro is no more a normal guy if you're linked to the greatest swordman who ever lived.

It's like if we would learn that Sanji ancestor was the first who discovered all blue. Its CHEAPPPP.

Luffy being waited by a prophecy is also lame af.

Zoro got nothing from ryuma other than his appearance sanjis literal entire being came from judge and his modifications conparimg zoro having one strong ancestor to that is ridiculous you're just coping because you can see oda is about to ruin sanji.
Zoro being ryumas ancestor is a theory that goes back to thriller bark lol

 

[Rayleigh-Sama]

The site's mascot and we love him.

I was gonna say the same thing XD

 

[MonsterZoro]

any sanji infor

 

[Jet Pistol]

Well I'm rooting for the man. I would actually like her mother to be a special woman.

Your wish will be granted by Oda at this rate. I on other hand don't like special background for strawhats. It should be inherited will and stuff. I am still hyped about Dragon's dialogue from chapter 100.

Zoro inheriting Ryuma's will would have been much better hype imo. Not blood relation. We had enough with Sanji.

 

[nik87]

Are you ready to face the harsh reality of Sanji>Katakuri? @Echizen_Jo_Ndule

 

[BleakAsh]

Where'd you get the info about pearl if you don't mind me asking👀

the manga .. the blue flames part from the wiki

 

[Nate D. White hawk]

Guys, it's time to sleep, got to sleep

 

[BillSlipton]

Ace novel

Before shanks lost his arm. Sure I can see that. Not 8 years later when shanks became a yonko

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro fans say Enma is a training tool and laugh at Sanji

It turns out that combat clothing is the training tool

It's not a tool

 

[Ask D question]

We can say that to Luffy because his df give him strength, speed etc. Zoro's sword doesn't boost his strength,speed, durability, endurance, or give him any weird power. So no. He carried himself 🤷‍♂️

RS/DNA?? - Boost Sanji's strength, speed, durability, ability to float, fly, bullet proof, fire etc :cheers:

Sanji's fighting style, ability to fly, haki in general, doesn't come from his DNA anyways, plus why does everyone immediately assumes it's connected to the modifications, next chapter will likely confirm wether sanji is like that thanks to his mother, or because of his father

 

[BillSlipton]

the manga .. the blue flames part from the wiki

I'm asking about the jungle part. I don't trust the wiki as a good source. They are wrong often

 

[Finalbeta]

I was gonna say the same thing XD