Questions & Mysteries Did Zoro use advanced Conquerors Haki against Kaido in Chapter 1010?

What kind of CoC did Zoro use?

  • Advanced CoC

    Votes: 107 70.4%
  • Basic CoC

    Votes: 30 19.7%
  • He didn't use CoC

    Votes: 15 9.9%

  • Total voters
    152
#1
There are some people who think that Zoro only used basic CoC against Kaido with his Ashura. And there are some who believe that he didn't even used CoC in the first place and that Kaido mistook it. I want to know why people think these first two things because I think Kaido definitivly knows what basic CoC is. Why would he be so stressed out if it is only basic CoC when he was totally unimpressed with Luffy using his basic CoC unconcious against some fodder? Why would zoro having only basic CoC stress out Kaido so much in a way that he himself couldn't believe it? We got a confirmation that Oden used ACoC against Kaido and was therefore able to scar him. This is also a confirmation that you need ACoC to damage Kaido or even Scar him. He himself told Luffy who used Ryou that his attacks were to shallow. The same thing was said to the Scabbards when they used Ryou and Odens Paradise Totsuka. Why would zoro react the way he reacted if it was basic CoC? He is not stupid, he knows how basic CoC looks and works, he saw it from his own Captain and by the logic that he used ACoC he had it himself. He was only confused because he didn't know that someone would be able to use it on attacks, thats the only logical conclusion here. He used ACoC without knowing it, therefore he can't control it yet. What do you guys think?
 
#6
My theory is that Zoro's conquerors works in a unique way and is similar to Oden's. We never saw Oden using basic CoC but he did use advanced against Kaidou. Maybe Zoro's real skill is using it through his swords just like he does with armament. And I bet Zoro used conquerors against Kaku but he didn't know shit about it
 
#7
My theory is that Zoro's conquerors works in a unique way and is similar to Oden's. We never saw Oden using basic CoC but he did use advanced against Kaidou. Maybe Zoro's real skill is using it through his swords just like he does with armament. And I bet Zoro used conquerors against Kaku but he didn't know shit about it
To be fair the Anime showcased Odens basic CoC aswell, just like it did with Zoro.
 
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Akagaminoproduction

#8
You mean the attack which worried Big Mom? Could very well be the case. I doubt that ryou alone is a reason for her to freak out like this.
Now I get why Enma is hyped so much.... Its not the grade... its enma's insatiable hunger for haki... if you are powerful enough it can awaken your max haki potential.... even sucking CoC coat which you cant consciously control.... That's why even after enma training zoro cant tame it perfectly
 
#10
Yes. It was an advanced form. But it's not Ashura itself. It's just that Zoro unleashed his Haoshoku in that moment of going all out.
That could very well be the case, since his Ashura is his all out attack. So with Ashura he did awaken not just CoC but advanced CoC.
But it seems like he can't control it yet, thats why I hope his haki blooms against King so he can use it freely against Kaido after the fight with King.
 
#12
Fuck the anime dude they spoiled Zoro's most epic moment in years for anime only fans. Shit like that disrespects what Zoro did against Kaidou. Dude fought his hearth off but in the anime he used conquerors like he knew what he was doing? Fuck that. I hate toei
To be fair they did only confirm Zoro having the basic CoC. What he used against Kaido was the advanced Version which they didn't spoil. So the impact still will be there if the episode arrives.
 
#15
To be fair they did only confirm Zoro having the basic CoC. What he used against Kaido was the advanced Version which they didn't spoil. So the impact still will be there if the episode arrives.
Idk dude i love Zoro so much (I'm a fanboy of the monster trio) and when that moment happened i literally jumped out of my seat and almost cried out of emotion, while the anime people were just "Zoro has conquerors??". I think shit like that kills the moment but it's fair if you see it like that too. I'm just against the toei idea of spoiling one of the best moments of my favourite characters
 
#16
Idk dude i love Zoro so much (I'm a fanboy of the monster trio) and when that moment happened i literally jumped out of my seat and almost cried out of emotion, while the anime people were just "Zoro has conquerors??". I think shit like that kills the moment but it's fair if you see it like that too. I'm just against the toei idea of spoiling one of the best moments of my favourite characters
I feel you bro, as a zoro fan I understand such feelings. :josad:
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#19
But would that mean that zoro only can use Advanced CoC if he uses his Ashura? Or do you think otherwise?
Maybe, depending on what's Oda's idea I guess.

We know that ACoC was unleashed as soon as Asura or so was out but that could also be very well a coincidence, since he went all out by perhaps unleashing both which however distinct.

But if Oda deems a Zoro capable to use ACoC without Asura too broken then we will have ACoC = Asura.
 
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