Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1025 Spoilers Discussion

[Steve Madden]

People complaining about Momo facing off against kaido when the entire crew will at some point. Sanji will fight Kaido too

 

[BornInAbyss]

He was awed by Roger and upped his game traveling with him, as was specifically said that his strength grew dramatically.
That said Oda only confirmed both used CoC, not that Oden's was advanced.
THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING was specifically used as a sign post by both Oden, seeing Roger/WB's adv CoC clash and Law for Luffy/Kaido's adv CoC clash, he was awed at the outlandish effectand power of adv CoC, you are jumping throuhg multiple hoops, which you don't even need to to claim Oden's final attack was adv CoC, when you make the ridiculous claim that the attack he used against the boar had it, just to excuse Zoro for not having the same physical cues as the confirmed users of adv CoC (i.e. the yonkos and Roger).

Kaido also used advanced CoC but he clearly touched Luffy. Get your facts right. Oda is reffering here that they both infused CoC into their attacks so the attack could be much more lethal. And the fact that advanced CoC was used to scar kaido, is a direct confirmation that Zoro used it aswell. There is no other way but to use advanced CoC to hurt Kaido like that. Both Oden and Zoro did that. I can't believe people still deny this wtf is wrong with you guys?

 

[Peroroncino]

Nothing yet?

 

[Steve Madden]

The act of hitting someone without touching them is the result of ryou.

You don't need ryou to use conquerors imbued attack most likely. Conquerors isn't the reason for why there's a space between attacks. That's the ryou at work with conquerors mixed for the extra damage

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

He was awed by Roger and upped his game traveling with him, as was specifically said that his strength grew dramatically.
That said Oda only confirmed both used CoC, not that Oden's was advanced.
THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING was specifically used as a sign post by both Oden, seeing Roger/WB's adv CoC clash and Law for Luffy/Kaido's adv CoC clash, he was awed at the outlandish effectand power of adv CoC, you are jumping throuhg multiple hoops, which you don't even need to to claim Oden's final attack was adv CoC, when you make the ridiculous claim that the attack he used against the boar had it, just to excuse Zoro for not having the same physical cues as the confirmed users of adv CoC (i.e. the yonkos and Roger).

Not to mention the whole setup to the situation involving Luffy shows us thatt what Zoro did was no AdCoC. Kaido phrased Zoro having CoC as more of a question rather than a downright confirmation. Then he proceeds to go on and explain to Luffy that only a handful of the Strongest people in the World can utilize AdCoC.

Then Luffy proceeds to showcase it, which in turns gets Kaido excited for a fight, that he hadn't felt in a long time. This was literally right after being scarred by Zoro. If it was indeed advanced CoC, Kaido would have recognized it on the spot just like Luffy did after receiving Kaido's attack, and would have been thrilled at the prospect of being scarred by someone using AdCoC.

It's a classic Oda setup and execution. He has Zoro unlock basic CoC, and then immediately afterwards showcases Luffy using the Advanced form as to not be outdone.

 

[Lhulu]

After Sanji vs Queen and Zoro vs King,Zoro goes to Kaido and Sanji goes to Big Mom. Good or bad?
And how will Sanji fight Mama? Well,he would make some combos with Kidd and Law to avoid hitting her directly! Brilliant!

Yeah, Zoro go to Kaido but I don't think Sanji will go against big Mom.

My bet is: his next role will be the stealth one, remember the secret entrance of Wano? I'm pretty sure Oda didn't put it here for nothing, i'm expecting another "EL Gate" moment, but now closing the entrance for an enemie.

 

[Brendan Schaub]

Redon is sleeping

 

[Hedfi]

So Oden gets shocked,confused and awed by Roger using Adv Coc on him and his adv CoC clash with WB, but he already used it years before...
Makes sense.

No giant black lightning effect so no Adv-CoC used here as simple as that. I guess he leaned Adv-CoC later in life, maybe after witnessing the Roger and Whitebeard Adv-CoC clash.

 

[Brendan Schaub]

England, I...

 

[Steve Madden]

It's obvious Zoro used the same conquerors + ryou attack that Luffy used at the end of chapter 1010. Oda set up the chapter like that for a reason. Even looking at the anime Zoro uses conquerors at will, on the rooftop though the entire point of chapter 1010 was to show the leaders of the next generation and Kaido goes on to tell Luffy only the very best (something along those lines) use conquerors in their attacks.

It's all put together in one amazing chapter. Zoro was unaware and used conquerors in his attack to scar kaido. It's setup for when later in the arc Zoro uses conquerors in his attack at will.

 

[Hedfi]

 

[Ballel]

Redon is sleeping

His sadism made him tired. It's hard to torture others all day long. cut him some slack

 

[BornInAbyss]

No giant black lightning effect so no Adv-CoC used here as simple as that. I guess he leaned Adv-CoC later in life, maybe after witnessing the Roger and Whitebeard Adv-CoC clash.

But this was confirmed by oda to be infused with CoC. :zorothink:

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Only Yonko and PK. Nobody else. No Larine. No Dragon. No Lihawk.

Garp also literally said Luffy inherited his COC

 

[BornInAbyss]

Question : I always play in the kindergarten and use "Togen Shirataki" and "Kamusari" will I get stronger?​

Oda : Woah! Take it easy on the conqueror's haki!

And I've seen a bunch of other translations. He put images for Oden and Roger there you know where those attack names came from

Oda reffers to ''Togen Shirataki'' which is the attack being used against the mountain god.

 

[HA001]

An all out base CoC enhanced Enma slash.

No such thing as base coc coating you either coat it or you don't.

 

[mly90]

An all out base CoC enhanced Enma slash.

Oden was the original owner of Enma yet it's confirmed he used adv CoC to scar Kaido so why wasn't oden's basic CoC enough if Enma has the ability to enhance. According to you it had no effects or boosted Oden but works differently in Zoro hands?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Kaido also used advanced CoC but he clearly touched Luffy. Get your facts right. Oda is reffering here that they both infused CoC into their attacks so the attack could be much more lethal. And the fact that advanced CoC was used to scar kaido, is a direct confirmation that Zoro used it aswell. There is no other way but to use advanced CoC to hurt Kaido like that. Both Oden and Zoro did that. I can't believe people still deny this wtf is wrong with you guys?

Katakuri and Luffy used Basic CoC with their attacks throughout the fight. And Luffy has clashed with a multitude of people using just basic CoC. If it does fuck all in a fight, then there would be absolutely no reason for these characters to be using it.

What we never saw was what would happen if a weapon user used basic CoC with their attacks. If it can amplify a punch, then it amplify a Sword strike.

 

[Ballel]

Why does Zoro look like a fat old man and Sanji look like a bum?

 

[Hedfi]

England, I...

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