Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1025 Spoilers Discussion

[Hahasanji]

I'm the man who's going to be the pirate king! :cantseeme:

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[Celestial D. Dragon]

I can't answer that tbh. But if you go by the manga panels they do nothing. I guess Oda just wants to visualise conquerors clashing which is epic and all but its more of a wow factor for the viewer.

I don't know man, this attack looks pretty amplified to me.

 

[Steve Madden]

Sanji kun reading two piece lol

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I don't know man, this attack looks pretty amplified to me.

Where's the conquerors?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

CoC has always been imbued in attacks. It's the equivalent of CoA hardening.

What Luffy learned was the "Ryou"/flowing equivalent of CoC.

I know. The question at hand here is whether Zoro used basic CoC to scar Kaido, or AdCoC.

The argument being proposed is that it had to be AdCoC, because Basic CoC doesn't amplify attacks. I call BS on that, because it does amplify attacks.

 

[sanjikun]

Sanji kun reading two piece lol

How is this "two piece"? Against Don Chinjao and Doflamingo the air pressure was so great people were fucking flying.

Is that not an amplification of an attack?

 

[Strawhats Bible]

I don't know man, this attack looks pretty amplified to me.

Yeah it has always been heavily implied that not only Luffy but also his opponents were using CoC to amplify their attacks.
Oda literally had fodder react to these as well.

 

[BornInAbyss]

I don't know man, this attack looks pretty amplified to me.

This is basic CoA lightening, not conquerors.

 

[sanjikun]

I literally made threads about this a long time ago. CoC has always been put behind attacks.

Luffy is just learning to use CoC "outwardly" as Hyogoro called it, so he can penetrate deep into Kaido's scales.

 

[Paperchampion23]

why I’m ashamed to be One Piece fan? 🏴‍☠️

- Tama and Yamato chapters 👍
- Luffy gets all the focus 👺
- Dragged out (act 3 ain’t even done) 🐐
- false promises 🙀
- no Sanji and Kid hype 🥶
- Naruto is better ✅
- barely selling 🥱
- zoro 🤩

- Tama finished her relevancy. Yamato is pretty much the next crewmate. She needs focus
- He's the MC and shockingly does not get all the focus lol what? Every other chapter has given other strawhats focus. 1022, 1023 is specifically Zoro. The chapters prior were specifically Jinbe, Franky, Robin, etc
-Touche, it's definitely way longer than other acts, it's odd.
- Ehhh, most of the hype Oda generated for a "war" has been for the endgame, not Wano. It's always been a segue to that.
- They will get it, in due time. Patience.
- No it's not lol
- No other 100 volume series sells 1-2 million copies on average. All of its other competition is practically ending, once again.
- Yes

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Yeah it has always been heavily implied that not only Luffy but also his opponents were using CoC to amplify their attacks.
Oda literally had fodder react to these as well.

Yeah, I'm not sure how people can argue against it, when there would be literally zero reason to use CoC while attacking if it did diddly shit.

 

[Steve Madden]

How is this "two piece"? Against Don Chinjao and Doflamingo the air pressure was so great people were fucking flying.

Is that not an amplification of an attack?

Conquerors always has that air pressure thing about that. Prior to this arc conquerors was more like a aura type of thing that surrounds you. Something that knocks out and pushing back fodders. Luffys conquerors pre skip did the same thing. However in Wano we learn that conquerors can be used not only against fodders, we also learn that it's not only an aura thing.

 

[sanjikun]

This is basic CoA lightening, not conquerors.

Mate, the new curved lightning has never been shown in One Piece up until Oden flashback. It's just a stylistic change.

We have confirmed uses of CoC and it was never drawn before.

 

[BornInAbyss]

How is this "two piece"? Against Don Chinjao and Doflamingo the air pressure was so great people were fucking flying.

Is that not an amplification of an attack?

Apparantly it did not amplify the damage output. It created shockwaves sure, but thats it.

 

[sanjikun]

Conquerors always has that air pressure thing about that. Prior to this arc conquerors was more like a aura type of thing that surrounds you. Something that knocks out and pushing back fodders. Luffys conquerors pre skip did the same thing. However in Wano we learn that conquerors can be used not only against fodders, we also learn that it's not only an aura thing.

No. By itself it just knocks people out. It doesn't send them flying. It only sends them flying when there is a CLASH of 2 attacks.

 

[BornInAbyss]

No. By itself it just knocks people out. It doesn't send them flying. It only sends them flying when there is a CLASH of 2 attacks.

Even if a clash between two basic CoC users happen, it only creates a shockwave that affects the surroundings between them.
If it truly amplifies the attack there would be seen damage taken by both of the individuals using this which isn't the case.

 

[sanjikun]

And btw I'm not claiming that Zoro did or did not use "Advanced CoC". He very well could have because Hyogoro mentioned Luffy was already using advanced CoA flow for example, he just had no idea about it

So Zoro could have done it "unconsciously".

Even if a clash between two basic CoC users happen, it only creates a shockwave that affects the surroundings between them.
If it truly amplifies the attack there would be seen damage taken by both of the individuals using this which isn't the case.

Dude, the shockwave IS from the amplification. It's not just basic CoA but you're adding CoC behind it.

 

[BornInAbyss]

Dude, the shockwave IS from the amplification. It's not just basic CoA but you're adding CoC behind it.

If thats the case then the amplification is so weak it isn't even being noticed between those who are clashing.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

I don't believe Zoro's attack on Kaido to be Ad CoC because it simply is an exception for every example we have in the manga.
All the time we saw Ad CoC being used there were HEAVY black lightning bolts, in all the confirmed cases is the same, Luffy, Big Mom, Kaido, Roger, Oden and WB and on three of these examples they were using swords/blades. And with also no exception they didn't make physical contact with the target as well.
Kaido's reaction as well doesn't back this idea of it being Ad CoC as well as his comments some panels later for Luffy.

 

[sanjikun]

If thats the case then the amplification is so weak it isn't even being noticed between those who are clashing.

LMAOOO. You realize Luffy literally had to put his hand up because the wind pressure was so great.

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And read what I said. I'm not saying anything about your precious Zoro. It could easily be the case that he used "advanced CoC" against Kaido.​

 

[Lhulu]

The CoC clash between non adv users create shockwaves(which can affect material things).
The adv. one is the direct use on attacks, even the lightings/sparks are different:

Here you have a thicker lightning and even before the clash.