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Oh so Cracker/Smoothie ~ Katakuri then right? Snack must be super close too. Your words.

You don't "normalize" his age lmao what is that. I guess Katakuri is complete shit vs Luffy since he's 30 years older than him. Kaido is even worse cause he's 40 years older right?
Stop mentioning Katakuri, when his character was clearly retconned. There are 2 Katakuris: The original swordsman design with the powder powder no mi, and the new Katakuri. Yes, originally Katakuri ~ Smoothie/Cracker. The new one was a last minute retcon for Luffy but his name was mentioned as a "Sweet Commander" since 840s, so Oda couldn't change his rank anymore.

King is not on a "different tier" to Jack. Who's Who could have challenged either of them. Kaido made them on par.



King > Jack, but it's not by much. Your claim that King >>> Jack, is fucking absurd, and a desperate attempt to save face for Calamities.
 

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No. No it doesn't. Kaido smacking his club on your head is worth more than random fucking Sulong Minks attacking you.



A casual swing to the head took out Oden himself.
A blow at the back of the head is a different story altogether. You do know why Rabbit Punches are illegal, right? Kin'emon, for example, took a much stronger attack and still remained conscious. We don't even know if the dukes are hit on their heads in the first place. Besides, a blow to the head mostly messes up with your head, not your entire body.
 
A blow at the back of the head is a different story altogether. You do know why Rabbit Punches are illegal, right? Kin'emon, for example, took a much stronger attack and still remained conscious. We don't even know if the dukes are hit on their heads in the first place. Besides, a blow to the head mostly messes up with your head, not your entire body.
Luffy got KOed by a swing to the front of the head.

Again, these are irrelevant details. One is the strongest being in OP. The other are characters weaker than Carrot.
 
What a pathetic chapter
Kaidou shoots his “Bolo Breath” and Momonosuke barely manages to dodge it.
Lolo breath didn't do shit again :seriously:what a surprise
Momonosuke bites Kaidou, who screams in pain.
:lusalty:Crydo
Inuarashi and Nekomamushi recover their “Sulong” form and defeat Jack and Perospero.
Nice one Loda. Great way to treat firstborn yonko son and billion worth calamity.
 
It's been indirectly hinted all along that Jack is inferior to both King and Queen. I don't think Oda ever intended to take him seriously from the start, so it's kinda Kaido's fault for not choosing one of his closest followers wisely

Why do you guys keep digging a hole for yourself deeper and deeper? King and Queen will get mid diffed. That's clear as fuck.

Zoro/Sanji are not going to pull a Robin.



The Calamities just aren't that strong. Get over it. Sanji is still in base and Queen is in his final form.
 
Why do you guys keep digging a hole for yourself deeper and deeper? King and Queen will get mid diffed. That's clear as fuck.

Zoro/Sanji are not going to pull a Robin.



The Calamities just aren't that strong. Get over it. Sanji is still in base and Queen is in his final form.
Even if they're not as overpowered as we thought they're, it's clear that Jack is still the weakest one of them, so we can't predict how will things turn out with the other two as we don't know how much stronger than Jack they're
 

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Luffy got KOed by a swing to the front of the head.
By a much stronger attack.

Again, these are irrelevant details. One is the strongest being in OP. The other are characters weaker than Carrot.
That's ridiculous. The details obviously matter. A hundred Minks fighting together can easily replicate the amount of damage Kaido does with a swing or two.
 
Hopefully a flashback of understanding the process of forging a blade black
I agree with this fully, maybe i wanna add that Oda can do better in dividing which powers he should give to SHs. If Oda design Luffy's affinity and effort to train CoC, he shouldnt give FS or barrier CoA to Luffy imo. If Oda didnt feel like giving Luffy AdvCoC yet, Luffy just learning internal CoA without being able to do barrier CoA would felt specialized enough. After that Oda can go crazy in AdvCoC but should also make Luffy invents a completely original power unique to him that no one else in the world have. Compressing his body nerve or joints to produce FTL reactions, freely compressing and releasing any kinetic energy, you name it.

On the other hand, if Zoro is specialized in CoA, Oda can always make Zoro's barrier CoA stronger than Luffy's hardening CoA until Luffy found out and learned internal CoA which Zoro can't do. If Luffy would be the CoC specialist, Oda didn't even have to feel obliged to give Zoro release CoC (like in chp 1010 Asura) let alone AdvCoC (that Zoro may get in upcoming chapters hypothetically) that Luffy has,but Oda can give Zoro max barrier CoA and other kind of mystic powers related to Asura that apparently can pave the way unto Black Blade, or rather as the beginning of an original spirit-related power unique to Zoro. Lush-Green CoA Blade that has its own spirit and exactly cutting the enemies weak point? Some epiphany in attaining absolute calm or strike precision in battle?

...while only Sanji should get FS. Lufy doesnt fit that at all.

So each one have his strength and weaknesses, it felt more specialized to me. And it should apply as well to their fight, since i felt Zoro interfering with Luffy's opponent doesnt fit the theme at all. If Zoro is fit to slay a dragon then dont give Kaidou a dragon fruit lol, give him something else that represents WSC like a Titan race and More More DF (like Burndy World) or something. While King or Orochi can be a master swordsman that also has a dragon DF for Zoro to slay, this way no one interferes with each other to prove a point.
 
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