[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 5 - Throne of Lies III

[Light D Lamperouge]

what are your thoughts atm then
what specifically changed for you

I don't think scum would just ignore my case on them like that. He was in the thread and posted once and was gone after that. Think scum would be more worried with the growing wagon. Plus many people were willing to vote him up. I think we can put him aside for the moment.

 

[Zemmi]

I don't think scum would just ignore my case on them like that. He was in the thread and posted once and was gone after that. Think scum would be more worried with the growing wagon. Plus many people were willing to vote him up. I think we can put him aside for the moment.

Disagree, No one seemed to want to vote up anyone yesterday.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE did you give me your top 3 sus list?

@Don DaSlayer I noted down LM, but what are your other 2.

Rn Lm as number 1
Then im a lil bit sus on enryu. And i dont have a 3rd as of right now maybe the inactive players.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Disagree, No one seemed to want to vote up anyone yesterday.

There were me, you, Gambit, Kagura was going to vote him too, Lanji was considering it as well. That's off the top of my head.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE did you give me your top 3 sus list?

@Don DaSlayer I noted down LM, but what are your other 2.

not sure I feel particularly strongly about up to 3
tobi would be the strongest one
zolo and kagura would be the closest to it .

 

[Zemmi]

There were me, you, Gambit, Kagura was going to vote him too, Lanji was considering it as well. That's off the top of my head.

That doesn't even count for willingness imo. I switched because it seemed like we weren't getting the votes on LM and more people were willing to go after Zara.

 

[Zara]

Been thinking about why Ripped was killed. Maybe someone is trying to frame Odd. I actually wouldn't put it past Susopp to have done it, and him being scum all along.



He's a nutjob lmao. I swear, if you wanna know my alignment, look at what Usopp says about me. It's usually the opposite. Every game in which he called me scum I was town, and every game in which he put me in the town poll I was scum.




No worries. I didn't like the push on you, and I didn't like people hammering it and the wagon growing so rapidly.


Do you trust him? I actually wouldn't mind pushing him today tbh. Also, in case Usopp does flip scum, I'd like to go after Kagura. Another thing I noticed while being scum with Usopp multiple games in a row, is that he always throws a scum buddy of his in his scum pile. I think he scum read TAC in the antag vs protag game iirc, me in the JoJo game, Rej in the Genshin game, and he named me and Kagura yesterday, obviously I know I am BD, so that leaves Kagura.

Do I trust Ekko? That's an interesting question. I think Ekko started this game as town, he made two posts hinting at his role last phase which I'm sure you noticed. I feel like I know what role he was hinting at but I could be wrong, how do you interpret his hint posts from last phase?

Also I've never seen what a day 1 scum Ekko looks like before, but I have a hard time thinking a scum would act the way he did last phase. Does he act like this in past games on day 1 when he rolls scum? So ya, at the moment I'd say I'm like 60% sure Ekko started off this game as town.


As for Ekko thinking that you're scum, well I disagree with him. I don't think you've done anything scummy this game. Your questions to Melkor were normal, your red dragon trick was fine. But most important, you saved my life. There would be no reason for a scum Light to save me, you would just sit back and let me die lmao. I'd say I'm 95% sure you started this game as town, I'll be very surprised to find out you started this game as scum because your actions would make zero sense.

However the key words are "started as town", I do think you would be an excellent cult target. If I was cult, I would either try killing you or culting you on Night 1 to either get you out of my way or on my side. So the longer you're still alive in this game, the more my distrust of you will increase. Sorry but that's just that nature of cult games unfortunately.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

That doesn't even count for willingness imo. I switched because it seemed like we weren't getting the votes on LM and more people were willing to go after Zara.

It does imo. The wagon was growing. I think Zolo voted him or thought about it as well. Zara's wagon also grew quickly, and mostly because we all tried to get a lynch.

 

[Zemmi]

It does imo. The wagon was growing. I think Zolo voted him or thought about it as well. Zara's wagon also grew quickly, and mostly because we all tried to get a lynch.

I actually would wonder if you converted him, but even I know LM would make a bad convert and would expect better from you.

 

[Zara]

Because I see people call you both he and she and I don't want to offend you xD

I'm a guy.

Please do because I am dumbfounded why anyone would target me.

Because you gave off the impression that you didn't care at all who was lynched last dayphase as long as it wasn't you or Light. Do you deny this? It's not a townie trait if you're content with nearly any player dying. Furthermore, you even said you were going to put the blame on Ekko for the mislynch. So you're fine with almost anyone getting lynched and are fine with taking no accountability for it.

Not sure what exactly about that was supposed to make me say "wow zemmi is def town". Also not sure why you're dumbfounded that people target you, the prince threw you in jail because you were playing scummy. I have no idea how you managed to convince yourself that the prince threw you in jail to protect you but okay believe whatever you want.


Anyways, why do you even care that I suspected you on night 1? What's the big deal exactly? I'm not even pushing for you today.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

People out here aint pushing nobody for their role lame. I feel like im next on they kill list.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

I think Ekko started this game as town, he made two posts hinting at his role last phase which I'm sure you noticed. I feel like I know what role he was hinting at but I could be wrong, how do you interpret his hint posts from last phase?

If we're thinking of the same posts, don't bring them up tho, I don't think we should put too much stock into that. Again, if we're thinking of the same thing, I can see what you mean, but not too sure lol.

Does he act like this in past games on day 1 when he rolls scum? So ya, at the moment I'd say I'm like 60% sure Ekko started off this game as town.

It's tricky lol. Ekko subbed in for Fuji in the JoJo game where we were scum together, so no D1 Ekko, in the antag vs protag he was mostly AKF iirc. In the Genshin game he pushed a lynch on UWU who was copped by their scum cop or something like that.

There would be no reason for a scum Light to save me, you would just sit back and let me die lmao.

Exactly. And laugh about how you got lynched and weren't even here lmao.

However the key words are "started as town", I do think you would be an excellent cult target. If I was cult, I would either try killing you or culting you on Night 1 to either get you out of my way or on my side. So the longer you're still alive in this game, the more my distrust of you will increase. Sorry but that's just that nature of cult games unfortunately.

I actually agree with you here lmao. I was expecting to die this night for real. Since I didn't, nor did I get culted, I am under the assumption that my plays D1 weren't dangerous to scum.

I actually would wonder if you converted him, but even I know LM would make a bad convert and would expect better from you.

Bestie I would actually do that. But only to get him lynched and gain cred from it. Then claim a neutral role and uncultable so I can get cleared completely. I wouldn't associate with my buddies early on when scum, no matter what. It's not imperative to do so.

 

[Zemmi]

I'm a guy.



Because you gave off the impression that you didn't care at all who was lynched last dayphase as long as it wasn't you or Light. Do you deny this? It's not a townie trait if you're content with nearly any player dying. Furthermore, you even said you were going to put the blame on Ekko for the mislynch. So you're fine with almost anyone getting lynched and are fine with taking no accountability for it.

Not sure what exactly about that was supposed to make me say "wow zemmi is def town". Also not sure why you're dumbfounded that people target you, the prince threw you in jail because you were playing scummy. I have no idea how you managed to convince yourself that the prince threw you in jail to protect you but okay believe whatever you want.


Anyways, why do you even care that I suspected you on night 1? What's the big deal exactly? I'm not even pushing for you today.

I didn't care who got lynched at that point, Just wanted you or LM lynched because of the information I could gain from the people pushing or going against y'alls lynches depending on your flips, call that scummy if you want but that is how you get results as town.

Which I honestly do not believe for the life of me you thought I was scummy, which is the main reason I can't drop my suspicion on you because of how you approached me. I have seen it time and time again (part of the reasons I changed the rules of ToS) Scum trying to out someone they believe is scum for town credit, but unfortunately for you I was just locked up.

Btw you are told that your RB fails? I need to check with the host about something.

I fully don't believe the Prince thought I was scummy, I might be wrong and if I am I take back the apology and mean every word I told them in our chat. Plus like I said it's a common trend to lock me up N1 to protect me, even though they know they gonna get a ear full when they do lol. I actually believe they might have stopped something bad on me.

Look at it this way if you are telling the truth and really town I will figure it out. Be nice to me and I will be nice to you.

Like I said i'm still on you because there is still the thought in the back of my head that you tried to do harm to me, and not for towns good.

 

[Zara]

Btw you are told that your RB fails? I need to check with the host about something.

Yup, I was told that my roleblock failed.

That's why the first thing I did at the start of the phase was ask you what you did last night. I know that there are a few ways for town roles to fail at being roleblocked so I wanted to make sure that you were actually scum instead of just outright assuming you're scum and voting for you. I'm a firm believer of innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Going to bed was a Lame reason for Lord Melkor to not claim. That’s sus as shit.

 

[Zemmi]

Going to bed was a Lame reason for Lord Melkor to not claim. That’s sus as shit.

Before you go to sleep, can you tell me about how sure you are he might be scum?

 

[Zara]

I was expecting to die this night for real. Since I didn't, nor did I get culted,

Of course you would say this buddy. We shall see.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Of course you would say this buddy. We shall see.

When have I ever lied to you Zara?



You can trust me

 

[Zara]

@Light D Lamperouge

I've played ToL once before, and I got neg differed at the start of the game so I've never seen a ToL game to the end. How often does town win? And do they win by just relying on their roles?

 

[Zara]

@Light D Lamperouge

Also I'll support your decision to pressure Ekko. I got no leads of my own anyways.

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