[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 5 - Throne of Lies III

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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Ah that. Well, I am not sure how exactly I can convince you, but I am really just your typical sexy neighbourhood maid.
You're attacking my weak spot (Maids) -_-

Here's where I'm at, basically. I think if Lanji is scum Zara is too. Zara voting for Zolo earlier, the claiming block on you, it fits. If Zolo is scum Lanji is cleared and Zara sort of cleared with him.

I'm leaning towards voting Zolo for that reason, and also because he doesn't seem to have an issue with me having redirected his target. I checked the resolution and mine would take priority but I don't think he's even checked this.

How certain are you that 2 for 1 was used last night? I don't expect 100% but I'm looking for reasonably certain or so. Because if that's the case we can probably flip both Zolo and then Lanji (if the former flips Town) without being endgamed or having any risk of it. At least one neutral being Zemmi also helps here, because she's basically an extra town vote.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
There was one post Melkor made that struck my eye today in regards to claiming, but I forget what it was pertaining to. Something about unique roles. It's pretty frustrating if he's just completely dipped though even if I understand he's busy irl (@Tris maybe we can get a sub for that slot?)
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
You should always use Facelift before your first possession to avoid alerting everyone that a possessor is present. One strategy is to disguise your corpse as another neutral killer (either The Sorcerer or The Reaper), so they'll think that the neutral killer is dead and won't be on guard for you until everyone else is gone.

This is another possibility that the Possessor is still alive and just forgot to facelift. :choppawhat: but why.....
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
You're attacking my weak spot (Maids) -_-

Here's where I'm at, basically. I think if Lanji is scum Zara is too. Zara voting for Zolo earlier, the claiming block on you, it fits. If Zolo is scum Lanji is cleared and Zara sort of cleared with him.

I'm leaning towards voting Zolo for that reason, and also because he doesn't seem to have an issue with me having redirected his target. I checked the resolution and mine would take priority but I don't think he's even checked this.

How certain are you that 2 for 1 was used last night? I don't expect 100% but I'm looking for reasonably certain or so. Because if that's the case we can probably flip both Zolo and then Lanji (if the former flips Town) without being endgamed or having any risk of it. At least one neutral being Zemmi also helps here, because she's basically an extra town vote.
I waiting to find out if Zolo would get action failed if Lanji didn't have a target that day.
 

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𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
You're attacking my weak spot (Maids) -_-
A man of culture you are.



How certain are you that 2 for 1 was used last night? I don't expect 100% but I'm looking for reasonably certain or so. Because if that's the case we can probably flip both Zolo and then Lanji (if the former flips Town) without being endgamed or having any risk of it. At least one neutral being Zemmi also helps here, because she's basically an extra town vote.
Well I am not sure how else it adds up. I think 3 neutral roles would be the maximum number of neutrals in a game. There's 16 players in the game, and let's assume there were only 2 scum at starting point, I am assuming our King is good, that's already 5 non town roles. One that needs to be the King to win, one that needs to survive, and one that need to kill the main factions.

No BD role can kill N1. So that leaves scum or a neutral role. Now going over what I said above, it doesn't seem like there's a neutral role in play. So it leaves scum. The cult leader cannot kill one person only. He kills 2 with his power.
You are the Cult Leader! The Cult Leader is a Guaranteed Unique Special class that belongs to the Cult faction.

[Day Active - Blood of Mithras] Sacrifice target Cult member to gain 2 charges of Eradicate. Other members gain 1 charge of their 1st ability. This can not be canceled once used. Not usable until Day 2.

[Day Active - Rupture] Target player's veins rupture, causing them to bleed. A bleeding player will die after two nights if they are not healed. [3-shots]

[Special Active - Suicide] Commit suicide at the end of the night. Should only be used when necessary. The Suicide ability can only be used from Day 4. It will happen at the end of the night, even if the assassin is jailed. It also ignores healing or occupation. [1-shot]

[Night Active - Brainwash] Attempt to convert target player into joining the Cult. If the conversion fails 3 times in a row, you will convert a random convertable player. Maximum of 4 living Cult members at once. [One-Night Cooldown Upon Success]

[Night Active - Eradicate] Unleash ancient power within Mithras, attacking 2 target players at once at night. [3-shots]

Wincon: Defeat the Blue Dragon and any Neutrals that seek to do you harm.
Eradicate is a 3 shot ability. I legitimately fail to see it being used 2 nights in a row, and opting to kill instead of converting. Now if there was some way Ripped was killed N1, it had to be a neutral killing role. Then that would mean someone was converted N1 and then the Eradicate was used N2. But again, is there room for another neutral killing role in a 16 players game? I honestly doubt it. That would have made at least 6 non town roles to start. With them being able to convert and the possibility of a bad King as well.


From checking the wiki there is no other cult member that can kill. Double check me, just for safe measure.



Now. The Unseen can cult and kill. Mastermind cults, Assassin kills. Assassin kills N1, Mastermind cults N1. If the culting attempt was successful there are 3 Unseen members now which is the maximum. Assassin double kills N2, lowers town numbers by a big margin.




That's my reasoning on it. Don can easily clarify this, which is why we need him here.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
Conversely, if Ali did indeed killed Cal N1, then the chances are it's Cult we're up against. They converted N1, it was on cooldown n2, so they double killed.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I wish Usopp confirmed he made me bleed immune :few: I just think I would be Usopps last choice for that since our history in games :milaugh:
I'm not feeling good about Odd to be honest. I was reluctantly clearing him anyway and so far everything he has said is unproven or reliant on assumptions as to who someone else targeted. Suggesting Melkor here when we have Lanji or Zolo is also pretty bad. He gets today off, but once we've got the scum between Lanji and Zolo, I'm revisiting Odd.
 
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