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Yeah no i couldnt care less how you percieve what you said. I am saying how i percieved it

You can take it or leave it. Get out with that gaslighting stuff
Nope. This has nothing to do with my perception. In every single game we play you try to do this to me, and I've mentioned this before. I distinctly remember this conversation in the Harry Potter Mafia too. It's gaslighting and I've asked you not, too many times by this point. I don't know why you do it but it's pretty poor form in my book. You don't get to assume emotion where there are no clear emotional cues and then, when I say there is no emotional outburst there, you respond with "that's just, like, my opinion man". It doesn't work that way.
 
Nope. This has nothing to do with my perception. In every single game we play you try to do this to me, and I've mentioned this before. I distinctly remember this conversation in the Harry Potter Mafia too. It's gaslighting and I've asked you not, too many times by this point. I don't know why you do it but it's pretty poor form in my book. You don't get to assume emotion where there are no clear emotional cues and then, when I say there is no emotional outburst there, you respond with "that's just, like, my opinion man". It doesn't work that way.
Werent you scum in that game that got me.killed? So i was right yes?
 

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Literally every single game in which we have some extended discussion it results in you saying I'm mad or angry or upset, and you the proceed to gaslight by acting as if I'm completely out of control, and then I end up repeating myself ad nauseum that no, I'm not mad or angry or upset, and then you insist I must be because you say so, I point to there being no emotional cues in my posts to justify that impression, and so it goes until the next game. Where you do it all over again. Each and every time I've asked you not to do so and each and every time you've proceeded to gaslight again and again because, I dunno, you're trolling or you have some creepy thing about it or whatever. I'm pretty sure I've called it out previously too so this is hardly new.
 
Literally every single game in which we have some extended discussion it results in you saying I'm mad or angry or upset, and you the proceed to gaslight by acting as if I'm completely out of control, and then I end up repeating myself ad nauseum that no, I'm not mad or angry or upset, and then you insist I must be because you say so, I point to there being no emotional cues in my posts to justify that impression, and so it goes until the next game. Where you do it all over again. Each and every time I've asked you not to do so and each and every time you've proceeded to gaslight again and again because, I dunno, you're trolling or you have some creepy thing about it or whatever. I'm pretty sure I've called it out previously too so this is hardly new.
All of this bcs i understood smthing differently?

I am sorry this got to you so much but come on man, just drop it
 

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All of this bcs i understood smthing differently?

I am sorry this got to you so much but come on man, just drop it
You just can't help yourself. It hasn't "gotten to me" because your opinion or your trolling or whatever is completely irrelevant to me. It's unpleasant because you do it serially, and every time it's the same story. I won't just "drop it"; I have a right to call out behaviour against me that I feel is unwarranted. Especially when it's as frequent and "out of game context" as yours. It's not about understanding something differently, I've already established the argument around my wording of the equality of lies being told in this game by you and Fuji was entirely independent of this. I'd say I'd leave it until after the game, but you'll be saying the same thing as you are now even with my alignment known, so it'll be a waste of time to address it then. I've addressed it now, and if needs be I'm happy to go back and find examples of similar behaviour from previous games to evidence my argument.
 
You just can't help yourself. It hasn't "gotten to me" because your opinion or your trolling or whatever is completely irrelevant to me. It's unpleasant because you do it serially, and every time it's the same story. I won't just "drop it"; I have a right to call out behaviour against me that I feel is unwarranted. Especially when it's as frequent and "out of game context" as yours. It's not about understanding something differently, I've already established the argument around my wording of the equality of lies being told in this game by you and Fuji was entirely independent of this. I'd say I'd leave it until after the game, but you'll be saying the same thing as you are now even with my alignment known, so it'll be a waste of time to address it then. I've addressed it now, and if needs be I'm happy to go back and find examples of similar behaviour from previous games to evidence my argument.
I will literally.ignore this shit from now on
 

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Do so, then. If it will spare me your constant attempts to have me question whether I actually am acting emotionally-charged then that's a good thing in my book. I'm less optimistic that it'll prompt a change in your behaviour but who knows, maybe it's my lucky day.
 
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