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#43

They would have only wasted their energy while both yonko were together their awakening wouldn't have done much.
This right here. You are correct.

Their power was too risky for them to use. It consumes too much of their energy and could put them in a worse situation.

Some might think that was the best time to use awakening because there was five of them so they could back each other up. The truth is it wasn't. They all agreed taking on 2 Yonkos was too much. If Law and Kid used their power and it didn't defeat a Yonko. Instead, took them out then the battle would have turned into 2 vs 3 and put everyone in a worse situation. Even though we haven't seen the results of Kid attack we saw the results for Law attack and it didn't defeat Big Mom. It didn't cost her any more damage than Zoro's dragon twister. I doubt Kid's attack defeated Big Mom.

If they are able to continue fighting with awakening that just mean they have grown stronger since they first awaken their powers and throughout the war.
 
#44
The Main question is why Law withheld Kroom against Doflamingo. It doesn't make any sense.
Because he didnt had it. It is much more possible that after seeing Doflamingo use awakening, he wanted to awaken his ability too. And during this time he was off paneled trained to awaken his DF and that is the reason he barely has control on it.
 

Gol D. Roger

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#46
There is not one but multiple reasons;

First and foremost, for plot reasons i.e., to create a scenario where Luffy gets to fight Kaido in a one-on-one while Kid, Law, Killer, and Zoro get their own matches.
Because Zoro and Luffy are stronger and are better equipped to fight Kaido than Law and Kid.
Luffy and Zoro were using more of their power—Law and Kid weren't pressured as much as they're mostly not on the front line as much as the SH duo.
They can dish out their bigger moves at a lesser cost and can afford to fight for longer amounts of time while maintaining that power level.
 
#48
we saw the results for Law attack and it didn't defeat Big Mom. It didn't cost her any more damage than Zoro's dragon twister
What?
Kroom Anaesthesia Shock Wave is far stronger than Tataumaki. Far.
Thatsumaki cut Kaido external scales, Anaesthesia (combined with Punk Crash) was hyped as an attack that made Linlin feel a pain She didn't feel since 20 years (during her top tiers fights), forcing her to use a life-cutting power up to keep the pace.
It's essentially comparable to Ashura, not to Tatsumaki.
 

Gol D. Roger

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#49
It's essentially comparable to Ashura, not to Tatsumaki.
No

What?
Kroom Anaesthesia Shock Wave is far stronger than Tataumaki. Far.
Thatsumaki cut Kaido external scales, Anaesthesia (combined with Punk Crash) was hyped as an attack that made Linlin feel a pain She didn't feel since 20 years
Yes

(during her top tiers fights), forcing her to use a life-cutting power up to keep the pace.
Exaggeration
 
#51
So, did Big Mom use her lifespan to endure the damage she took or what?

@ConquistadoR
@JazzMazz

Dont remember with who I was debating that you could be serious while not using your greatest attack and then be serious and go all out. It is different but still being serious.

Here Big Mom, Law and Kidd just said the same. Reason that small clashes dont show always who is stronger when they look equal, it all depends on the context, I can see the clash of Ashura and Inu as a clash where it was hinted that who ever loses, it will not be without a high diff battle at least.
 
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Herrera95

#52
So, did Big Mom use her lifespan to endure the damage she took or what?

@ConquistadoR
@JazzMazz

Dont remember with who I was debating that you could be serious while not using your greatest attack and then be serious and go all out. It is different but still being serious.

Here Big Mom, Law and Kidd just said the same. Reason that small clashes dont show always who is stronger when they look equal, it all depends on the context, I can see the clash of Ashura and Inu as a clash where it was hinted that who ever loses, it will not be without a high diff battle at least.
First, BM only used her lifespan after she received the damage and took those fodder's lifespan. So she didn't use it to endure the damage.

Second, Kid was doing 0 damage and Law almost got defeated (Thunder Bagua) without using all they had. I see the point on your argument but in this case is completely non-sense.
 
#53
First, BM only used her lifespan after she received the damage and took those fodder's lifespan. So she didn't use it to endure the damage.

Second, Kid was doing 0 damage and Law almost got defeated (Thunder Bagua) without using all they had. I see the point on your argument but in this case is completely non-sense.
Kidd 0 damage? To big Mom?

Mmmm I dont think so.

And Big Mom used her years to get stronger to defeat them.
 

ZenZu

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#54
1st of all who uses their last ditch attacks with clear drawbacks off the jump before confirming it'll even be effective? Like in the history of battle manga?

2ndly, Law and Kidd didn't need heals for a reason, whereas Zoro came out the rooftop as a mummy, and Luffy was put to bed. They clearly had fuel left in the tank.

3rd, the strategy was always to separate the two Yonkou to maximize their chances. Big Mom kept interfering when they tried to focus on Kaidou and probably vice versa.

This isn't astrophysics, y'all start circlejerking braindead opinions, try turning on your brains once in a while.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#56
Kidd 0 damage? To big Mom?

Mmmm I dont think so.

And Big Mom used her years to get stronger to defeat them.
If referring to the last chapter he seemed to make her bleed so he probably dealt decent damage, I imagine not really comparable on the garguantuan scale of what a Current Asura or KKG strike should afford.
 
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Herrera95

#58
It took 30+ broken bones and almost depleted energy for Zoro to quit being a little bitch and pull out Asura. Law and Kidd not using awakening is mild.

Characters just do be like that.
Still not sure why everybody thinks Asura is something powerful. To me is a stupid attack that should never exist.

Actually Zoro was ready to get fully hit by Kaido only to stop Prometheus saving BM from falling at water. So maybe he would be out if wasn't for Law without using Asura?

Still think that Dragon attack that cut Onigashima Horn would have killed Kaido.
 
#59
I meant 0 damage on Rooftop. But even that Oda says BM took a big hit by Kid's awakening attack I don't buy it. She proved herself to be immune with those ridiculous attack that doesn't evolve haki.
Well, Kaido > Big Mom in durability.

Kidd did indeed not give damage in the roof. But Big Mom is an another thing, she can be damaged with strong attacks without advanced armament.
 
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