[FNZ] Role Madness Alabasta Arc (Smoker and Mafia victory)

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Well played, scum, and especially @Alibaba. Deserved win. Grats to @Ultra to - Indie redemption and all that.

I'm disappointed I would have won if Town had just not gone out of their way to spite me. It certainly will give me pause to consider claiming Indie here again, because there was legitimately no reason for me to do so as a fake claim gambit there. I don't care how "pro-town" or "neutral" I am in future, the lessons here is that when you play on WG, you're better off scum-siding as Indie. Hard not to feel screwed over. Not for the first time here, either, as I recall.
Someone went out of their way to spite me first so easy come easy go
 

EkkoLoJinx

No dude... that's a bike...!!
Like I said to Ekko. T-Pein was Town, ergo it was Town spite. Several other townies wanted me lynched. So my point is the same - coming forward and informing the town doesn't work here. I won't make the mistake again.
it wasnt spite
he thought odd/ratchet was scum v town
so if u got lynched he wuda vigged odd probabaly lol

idk his thought process tho. cant speak for him
im sad he chose to shoot me as well so we r in the same boat eh
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Someone went out of their way to spite me first so easy come easy go
I thought we covered this in the dead chat. You were tied to my wincon. There was no spite involved - I was playing to win.
it wasnt spite
he thought odd/ratchet was scum v town
so if u got lynched he wuda vigged odd probabaly lol

idk his thought process tho. cant speak for him
im sad he chose to shoot me as well so we r in the same boat eh
We wasn't really in the same boat though. You had a chance to win even in death. Me coming forward was to assume good faith on behalf of the other players, especially when my role was designed so I didn't even have to risk of being guilty checked. Disappointingly the same old "spite the indies" mentality was present which probably will never leave this place. It's a learning experience, and the learning here is that if you roll indie, it's better to side with scum. Ultra did, and he won for it. So, that's what I'll be doing regardless of how pro-town my next indie wincon is.
 
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