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Don't come at me with that BS. Characters have been growing stronger from magical fruit and it wasn't a problem.
Zoro obtains enma and all of a sudden it's magical sword this and magical sword that. Zoro can't do anything without enma. Having enma makes his haki stronger and gives him power. It doesn't. That's headcannon haters post because they are upset at how strong Zoro is. Enma just forces out more haki than the user wishes if they can't fully control it.
Obtainimg Enma actually make things worse until the user masters it. They have to fight against the sword to stop it from draining their haki too quickly. It's like fighting in a weighted vest. You don't automatically become stronger from having it but from training with it and using it you will grow stronger in time. Which is similar it to what Zoro said when he stayed by the time he gets used to the sword he will have grown stronger.
Zoro has always had greater AP than Luffy post TS. That's the reason he was able to cut/kill a dragon while Luffy couldn't hurt it with any of his attacks. During Dressrosa, Luffy's strongest G3 only broke the golem had while Zoro's non-haki 1080p destroyed half of the golem's body. Zoro's non-name attacks easily cut a even larger golem into pieces. WCI Luffy did grow stronger but only in CoO (FS) and even then he wasn't very skilled at it. That's why he spent time training with it in Udon.
Rooftop Zoro outperformed Luffy and had much greater AP than Luffy. While Zoro attacks were cutting Kaido and even scarred him. Luffy acknowledge all of his attacks were too hollow to cause any significant damage and didn't amount to anything.
King destroys Katakuri. Nothing Katakuri has allow him to beat King. He would waste most of his energy just trying to hurt King.
Zoro obtains enma and all of a sudden it's magical sword this and magical sword that. Zoro can't do anything without enma. Having enma makes his haki stronger and gives him power. It doesn't. That's headcannon haters post because they are upset at how strong Zoro is. Enma just forces out more haki than the user wishes if they can't fully control it.
Obtainimg Enma actually make things worse until the user masters it. They have to fight against the sword to stop it from draining their haki too quickly. It's like fighting in a weighted vest. You don't automatically become stronger from having it but from training with it and using it you will grow stronger in time. Which is similar it to what Zoro said when he stayed by the time he gets used to the sword he will have grown stronger.
Zoro has always had greater AP than Luffy post TS. That's the reason he was able to cut/kill a dragon while Luffy couldn't hurt it with any of his attacks. During Dressrosa, Luffy's strongest G3 only broke the golem had while Zoro's non-haki 1080p destroyed half of the golem's body. Zoro's non-name attacks easily cut a even larger golem into pieces. WCI Luffy did grow stronger but only in CoO (FS) and even then he wasn't very skilled at it. That's why he spent time training with it in Udon.
Rooftop Zoro outperformed Luffy and had much greater AP than Luffy. While Zoro attacks were cutting Kaido and even scarred him. Luffy acknowledge all of his attacks were too hollow to cause any significant damage and didn't amount to anything.
King destroys Katakuri. Nothing Katakuri has allow him to beat King. He would waste most of his energy just trying to hurt King.
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It is a magical sword. Just like shisui was. Zoro himself when he got shisui said "the sword doesn't want to listen but it makes my attacks way stronger. I need to train to master it. "
This is a fact. Big Mom and kaido sensing Odens haki in it is part of the manga. Zoro not having advanced color of arms but still cutting kaido is due to the magic sword. He couldn't cut kaido without it.
Zoro isn't able to draw out that much haki without it. It literally makes his attacks stronger. Just like shisui you dumb headcanon having ass buffoon.
Luffy using g4 basic attacks literally are stronger than zoros strongest non asura attack 3000 worlds.
G3 was stated by chinjao to be mountain level. Zoros 3000 worlds his strongest attack was only able to cut pica someone who barely qualifies as a tiny mountain...fuck a robotic Dino. Luffy's fighting kaido and is gonna put him down. Kaido tanked zoros strongest attack and told him be grateful cause he's not at that level yet😅
Lmao you say he was outperforming luffy when kaido literally said zoro wasn't good enough to hang but luffy actually might give him a good fight. Are we reading the same manga???
Kata eats a donut while fs king into next week with his awakening
Yeah but King can be better than Kaido at Kaido's best stat.
It just means King is relative to Kaido in power, like Kaido is high top tier King is mid top tier.
But Kaido was bled from Okiku, Kinnemon etc
Marco's strongest attack hits harder than that.
But unlike Kaido, King felt no pain from Kaido's attack, he had no expression on his face.
No one seems to defend themselves from CoA in One Piece otherwise every major feat of damage out put in invalidated in One Piece
-Kaido didn't defend himself with CoA against Oden
-Against Zoro
-He hasn't once used CoA to defend himself against Luffy
-Whitebeard didn't defend himself against Akainu with CoA
I don't think when Oda is having Zoro and Oden permanently wound Kaido and Akainu nearly kill Whitebeard in single attack, he isn't trying to convey the idea that Kaido and WB weren't defending themselves, he is trying to convey that Zoro Oden and Akainu hit very hard.
Obviously Zoro and Oden's feats are much better than Akainu's as Kaido is far far more durable than WB but point still stands.
It just means King is relative to Kaido in power, like Kaido is high top tier King is mid top tier.
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But Kaido was bled from Okiku, Kinnemon etc
Marco's strongest attack hits harder than that.
But unlike Kaido, King felt no pain from Kaido's attack, he had no expression on his face.
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No one seems to defend themselves from CoA in One Piece otherwise every major feat of damage out put in invalidated in One Piece
-Kaido didn't defend himself with CoA against Oden
-Against Zoro
-He hasn't once used CoA to defend himself against Luffy
-Whitebeard didn't defend himself against Akainu with CoA
I don't think when Oda is having Zoro and Oden permanently wound Kaido and Akainu nearly kill Whitebeard in single attack, he isn't trying to convey the idea that Kaido and WB weren't defending themselves, he is trying to convey that Zoro Oden and Akainu hit very hard.
Obviously Zoro and Oden's feats are much better than Akainu's as Kaido is far far more durable than WB but point still stands.
Bro you are smoking fucking crack if you think King in any type of way stacks up against kaido. Stop the damn wank and accept that zoros weaker than your headcanon allowed you to believe. He's below yc1 right now. He will be at yc1 at the end of the fight. Jfc why can't you zorotards just be logical instead of using mental gymnastics to justify your shit tier ass powerscaling based off dragon ball z
Haki is needed to hurt Marco.
But your not getting my point. Marco was completely fresh and in regeneration form when Garp punched him. Marco could not regen that damage.
King attacked an already exhausted Marco whose healing abilities were at it's limits.
One single attack from a Top Tier against a fresh Marco caused enough damage that Marco couldn't heal it, despite being in regen form to begin with.
King and Queen together could cause enough damage against an already exhausted Marco to KO him. I even said they were using haki to attack him, because it's the only way to hurt him.
What do you think would happen if Garp fought an already exhausted Marco? The fact that he can cause unhealable damage to him when he is fresh indicates Garp (A top tier) would have zero issues KOing Marco in that state. Something King and Queen can't do.
But your not getting my point. Marco was completely fresh and in regeneration form when Garp punched him. Marco could not regen that damage.
King attacked an already exhausted Marco whose healing abilities were at it's limits.
One single attack from a Top Tier against a fresh Marco caused enough damage that Marco couldn't heal it, despite being in regen form to begin with.
King and Queen together could cause enough damage against an already exhausted Marco to KO him. I even said they were using haki to attack him, because it's the only way to hurt him.
What do you think would happen if Garp fought an already exhausted Marco? The fact that he can cause unhealable damage to him when he is fresh indicates Garp (A top tier) would have zero issues KOing Marco in that state. Something King and Queen can't do.
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