Speculations What is King's secret power?

Is King the GOAT?

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#43
So King is pulling off some crazy feats against Zoro.

He protected himself from Tatsumaki with his wings and took no apparent damage.


Remeber that this is an attack that is strong enough to cut Kaido's scales.


Part of it is due to the toughness of ancient zoan, which has already been highlighted throughout the arc, but King has something else he adds on top.


It seems the mistery is related to his lunarian traits


Now, while Zoro says he never saw him flying while in human form, he did seems to be able to do that while fighting Sanji.



It is also interesting to notice that while he was in hybrid form there was no flame on his back (posting only one panel, but it is missing in all of them)


And yet when he went back to his human form at the end of the chapter the flame was immediately back


It also seems that his monster defense probably needs to be activated to work, and it is not something that is on all the time since we saw Zoro drawing blood with Oni Giri.


Are the fire stuff and the durability boost connected?

Are they two separate abilities?

What's going on here? :crazwhat:

Discuss the abilities of the strongest yonko commander. :steef:
Maybe Lunarians can adapt to attack and/or effects as long as the flames on their back are still alight?

This would explain why only Marco's initial hit made King bleed and, so far, only Zoro initial Onigiri made King drew blood. His flames allowed him to adapt to Marco's and Zoro's attacks and therefore negate the effects he should have suffered (like damages). This may explain why King was virtually clean after loldiffing Marco and Cook, and why Zoro was wondering how come his attacks didn't hurt King at all. Think Doomsday from DC, but only if King's flames are still burning.

This situation might necessitate Zoro cutting the flames of King's back to put him down for good.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#45
Maybe Lunarians can adapt to attack and/or effects as long as the flames on their back are still alight?

This would explain why only Marco's initial hit made King bleed and, so far, only Zoro initial Onigiri made King drew blood. His flames allowed him to adapt to Marco's and Zoro's attacks and therefore negate the effects he should have suffered (like damages). This may explain why King was virtually clean after loldiffing Marco and Cook, and why Zoro was wondering how come his attacks didn't hurt King at all. Think Doomsday from DC, but only if King's flames are still burning.

This situation might necessitate Zoro cutting the flames of King's back to put him down for good.
Zoro learned how to cut fire, perhaps there's was a deep reason to that after all.
 
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Herrera95

#47
King being able to fly on his human form will probably be a mistake made by Oda just like Kaido also being able to do it since he is lifting Onigashima in all his forms.

About his flame, I believe it is a technique he can use in all forms whenever he wants to.

That bullshit "laser beam" of him is incredibly stupid. How the fuck animals used to hunt that way?
 
#49
Just like this chapter after Tatsumaki‚ Zoro is wondering why is he being cut with no wounds. Blocking shouldn't prevent the cuts unless the cutting is being blocked by tough shield or scale‚ hence why Zoro wondered about the wings of King
It was two different statements he says he has hit multiple time not just the twister and he not bleeding
 
#50
Already shared it in other Thread

Zoro said "I need to figure out his Race" and didn't say "I need to get Stronger"
This indicates that King's Durability is related to his Secret Race Power & not his Raw Toughness like Kaidou, Big Mom or Queen

Zoro also questioned Purpose of King's Natural Wings, cuz not only he doesn't seem to use them, but it's interesting that Oda chose to give a Flying DF to someone who already have Wings. He also questioned the Fire on his Back, it should be noted that it doesn't disappear even in Full Zoan Form & why it's only near his Wings? & not somewhere else on his Body

Another thing to mention is that King's Race is similar to Fishmen & Minks, it's like they complete each other
Fishmen are Sea Race & they Control Water, Minks are Land Race & they Control Electro & King's Race are Sky Race & they Control Fire
So i concluded that just like Fishmen Water Ability extend to Fishmen Karate & Minks Sulong Ability extend to Sulong Form which are both Techniques that effect Bodies, it should be expected that King's Race have a Similar Bodily Ability related to Fire

This tells us that King's Secret Ability is related to his Race + Fire on his Back + Natural Wings + Bodily Control

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I believe the Answer is simple, King is just like Katakuri
Katakuri at first was mistaken for someone who can Tank even Haki Attacks but it turns out he was ignoring them using Future Sight
King is similar case, he isn't Tankier than Kaido, but his Ability allows him to ignore Damage, similar to Marco who conveniently is also related to Fire & Wings/Bird

I think when King takes Damage, the Feathers can absorb that damage & it results in them burning & fading away
It's like every time King takes Damage, he can lose some of his Feathers to ignore it
This is why there is always a Fire near his Wings & on his Back, cuz it represents his Life Force or more like how much of this Ability he have Left

So basically King's Race are defined by their Bodies covered entirely in Feathers just like Minks are defined by their Fur that emits Electro & increase in Volume when they turn Sulong Form. Those Feathers are the source of their Fire & it has the Ability to burn away to take away Damage. This is why King's Race were killed, whoever annihilated them (WG most probably) wanted to have their Feathers. But King was only one who escaped/survived but he still lost almost all Feathers in his Body, leaving only his Wings.

This is why King is so ashamed & traumatized that he decided to cover his entire Body & not let anyone see his Naked Skin, cuz it indicates the Humiliation of his Race & himself as a Proud Feathered Lunarian. This also explains why he love to torture others & fights in any fighting style, cuz of his Dark Past.

So for Zoro to defeat him, he must first cut his Feathered Wings, which will extinguish his Flame & Defense, & then Zoro can use his Top Attacks to knock him out
This would probably explain why King blocks Zoro's attacks and Kaido didn't bother to. If he didn't, one of those slashes probably would've damaged his flames and wings
 
#53
This would probably explain why King blocks Zoro's attacks and Kaido didn't bother to. If he didn't, one of those slashes probably would've damaged his flames and wings
Exactly, which Zoro pointed out
If King was simply Tough to damage, then no need to block with his Wings, his Dinosaur Body will also Tank the attack
So he definitely was protecting something, which was most probably his Fire that doesn't even disappear in his Full Zoan Form

This is convenient cuz Zoro recently learned to Cut Fire, so he will definitely cut King's Fire & Wings to weaken his Defense
 
#54
This would probably explain why King blocks Zoro's attacks and Kaido didn't bother to. If he didn't, one of those slashes probably would've damaged his flames and wings
Exactly, which Zoro pointed out
If King was simply Tough to damage, then no need to block with his Wings, his Dinosaur Body will also Tank the attack
So he definitely was protecting something, which was most probably his Fire that doesn't even disappear in his Full Zoan Form

This is convenient cuz Zoro recently learned to Cut Fire, so he will definitely cut King's Fire & Wings to weaken his Defense
You guys think King could recover the lost wings if he used his flames as a defensive source until they got lost? Maybe like a natural bird he might be able to regrow them but it may take consistent time.
Nice. I think we're all in agreement here that King's secret resides on the flames on his back. It's reasonable to think now if it were to be snuffed out, King's lifeline would be lost.

If our opinion is correct, this explains why Kaido took King with him to the Marineford. Of everybody present in MF, only Aokiji would be able to snuff out the flames. And, among the Shichibukais, maybe only Mihawk, since I doubt Zoro can slice off intangible things but Mihawk could not. Kizaru's lasers isn't going to snuff out his flames and Akainu's magma would just make the flames bigger. We don't have any indication that Garp and Sengoku know how to cut flames. In theory, he could virtually no sell almost every attack and would have greatly bolstered Kaido's campaign (had it not been for Shanks, who could likely cut flames, too).

And you're all correct that it's good timing that Zoro recently learnt how to cut fire. This makes it clear why King was able to easily defeat Cook and Marco together, because they could neither snuff out nor damage his flames. So he was able to easily no sell everything they threw at him and responded brutally. I don't know what is up with Enma and the Shamisen, but after Zoro gets his shit together, he should try Homurasaki on King. :cheers:

P. S.

I feel that all the Zoro downplayers who claimed Zoro is below YC1 level because he can't hurt King ejaculated prematurely (as usual). They attributed the whole thing to Zoro supposedly being weak instead of King having a cheat defense code. :emohiyo:
 
#55
Exactly, which Zoro pointed out
If King was simply Tough to damage, then no need to block with his Wings, his Dinosaur Body will also Tank the attack
So he definitely was protecting something, which was most probably his Fire that doesn't even disappear in his Full Zoan Form

This is convenient cuz Zoro recently learned to Cut Fire, so he will definitely cut King's Fire & Wings to weaken his Defense
Great minds think alike :cheers:
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Nice. I think we're all in agreement here that King's secret resides on the flames on his back. It's reasonable to think now if it were to be snuffed out, King's lifeline would be lost.

If our opinion is correct, this explains why Kaido took King with him to the Marineford. Of everybody present in MF, only Aokiji would be able to snuff out the flames. And, among the Shichibukais, maybe only Mihawk, since I doubt Zoro can slice off intangible things but Mihawk could not. Kizaru's lasers isn't going to snuff out his flames and Akainu's magma would just make the flames bigger. We don't have any indication that Garp and Sengoku know how to cut flames. In theory, he could virtually no sell almost every attack and would have greatly bolstered Kaido's campaign (had it not been for Shanks, who could likely cut flames, too).

And you're all correct that it's good timing that Zoro recently learnt how to cut fire. This makes it clear why King was able to easily defeat Cook and Marco together, because they could neither snuff out nor damage his flames. So he was able to easily no sell everything they threw at him and responded brutally. I don't know what is up with Enma and the Shamisen, but after Zoro gets his shit together, he should try Homurasaki on King. :cheers:

P. S.

I feel that all the Zoro downplayers who claimed Zoro is below YC1 level because he can't hurt King ejaculated prematurely (as usual). They attributed the whole thing to Zoro supposedly being weak instead of King having a cheat defense code. :emohiyo:
Always bet on Zoro to come out with the W and Hiyori :goyea::myman:
 
#59
king didn't bleed from onigiri, that was haki lightening.

about king's secret:
i believe it's his flames, like you pointed out, he didn't have them in hybrid form
and the only visible damage that king took was in hybrid aka zoro breaking his mask

so king is basically invincible as long as the flames still burns on his back.
 
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