Has Queen been defeated?


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Before it was a mid diff fight. Now it's a low diff fight, yeah.

Bit unfair since Jack got literally no on screen feats. But I judge mostly by feats.
Jack has still portrayal, Kaido handpicked him for the calamity position.

And feat wise he only got shafted for lack of showoff, but portrayal is there, Jack aing getting low diffed by another calamity let alone below that.
 

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𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
How?
Does this look like AP not enough to hurt him?
I said out down, not "hurt". Marco can hurt Queen, but putting him down will take a lot of time.


You're missing a key point which is that Ancient Zoans have insane recovery feats, basically healing damage in minutes. Queen could only tank Marco's attacks because King was there keeping Marco occupied all the time.
That's not how I interpreted it.

King recovered from Marco's attacks within seconds.



In a real 1v1, Marco would give Queen no time too take a breath, he'd be on his ass without rest and the damage would stack over time just as the Sulong Dukes have done vs Jack.

Same for Katakuri.

I really give Queen a lot of credit, dude's strong but he's outmatched
Marco fought a Base/Zoan Queen. Queen didn't use:
  1. His Hybrid form
  2. His Vinsmoke powers

Scaling Queen vs Marco from that encounter is very eh.
 
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