Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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@Jo_Ndule is right though, the feat of Oden didn´t nerv Kaido. He is still the dude who one shot Luffy with a single attack. Also Oda make it very clear with avoid to let Kaido use his hybird form. So he give him a cheapshot yet without really dehype him while Oden still has his insane hype. Like the way how Oda did it her though, both Oden and Kaido probably back then was mid top tiers lvl characters.
Nerfed Oden did more damage to Kaido in one hour than BM could do over the several hours they fought. :catsweat:
 
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Garp needed Sengoku to beat Shiki
Shiki was too much for Sengoku or Garp 1 vs 1

The old hag here butted in as Flamoe butted in
Unlike Katakuri who is a honorable person, kaido isnt really pissed.

Akainu and Sengoku had no trouble using dirty tricks to nerf WB
Teach is a dude who plays dirty

:pepeke: Then you still wonder who WB didnt avenge crap, didnt take out Kaido and his empire fully

Makes you wonder if WB/BM were even above this verison of Oden 20 years ago

Major W :
Pre Yonko Kaido : beats Moriah, beats Oden via distraction
Young Shanks : stalemated by Mihawk ; we dont even know if he defeated dfless Teach
BM : ? Dont have much record of her past solo battles
Prime WB: ? Matched Roger
Only record , no W
Roger : ? Matched WB ,
No W
Garp : beats Chinjao
Sengoku : ?
No W
Shiki? No W
Both Roger and Garp took down Rocks; Marine duo took down Shiki.

:choppawhat:

Most of these top tiers prime or not, dont have solo Ws back then
 
Who would have though that the Old Hag would be the reason for Kaido's survival :wellwell:
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I'm a Yonko fanboy, but Oden trashed him so hard. Kaido had to play dirty to win.
We dont know yet if thats true need chapter to clarify that...plus kaido expression can tell hundred meanings but i can assure you him being relief of old hag assistance is not one of them...#YonkoGang
 
Exactly and that doesn't mean that the person who defeated him was top tier or Roger Garp level at that time right?
But aren't you seeing what I'm getting at? The man got out of a losing battle unscathed 20 years ago and he got jumped by one sword Oden and stomped now.

Meaning 20 year later, Oden alone is a bigger deal to this guy than the entire god valley incident... And this is Kaido after 20 years of training
 
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