Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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And yet the mocking of Kaido will stop as soon as he shows his true power in Onigashima.
That is the case and Oda will do it. I said last week, people should stop to downplay Oden. I fucking knew it that something like this in new chapter was coming. And the same will happen with Kaido in the fire festival, Kaido will get his hype back just how Oden get his in this chapter.

This chapter but change my powerlvl though about Oden. I put him to low Top tier lvl, right now he jump up to solid mid top tier if not even higher end of mid top tier. Dude was really a beast..
 

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You don't need to fight any specific person to become a yonkou... Just gather enough territory and fight a reasonable amount of relatively strong people and get a big enough and strong enough crew and then you become a yonkou

That's how both Blackbeard and Luffy became yonkou.... Given how easily Oden stomped this man, there's no way he would've become a yonkou without getting stronger... He doesn't have to fight a specific top tier or anything, he just has to get strong enough not to get stomped by a nerfed samurai
My bad. I simply meant who he got to fight in order to raise his power consistently since I'm still skeptical about he turning much stronger during these two decades.
 
That clash is not even impressive and that was a weaker Kaido than now
Also Oden has more bandages and damage vs Kaido than he had vs Roger pirates after 3 days.

Oden was commenting on their haki no Power overall.

The fact WB didnt avenge Oden nor take down this version of Kaido and his empire just tells me

Rock pirates dont like fighting each other for the sake of it, and WB/BM werent that much strong

This is basically Kaido pre Yonko status, pre WSC and 1 vs 1 hype.

Yet WB BM Navy coulnt keep this chained or take him out totally as how Teach took out WB pirates totally.
Tells you ehat? WB>> Oden
 
Teach calling Kaido a monster doesnt even make sense anymore
Kaido is a monster for his unkillableness... We know he's lost and been captured before... the only big thing is that he can't die... And his unkillableness has nothing to do with his actual growth in power apparently


Like Big mom was a tank from birth so you can't say Shanks is a chump because he got his hand eaten yet 6 year old Big mom wouldn't have been harmed... These are freak of nature abilities that don't indicate actual strength... Kaido was unkillable when he had Coby level haki and he is still unkillable now when he has Emperor level haki... the unkillableness isn't about how strong he actually is... and thats what makes him a monster
 
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let us enjoy

clearly Kaido back then and now are not in same level

but I think Big Mom helped Kaido to power up and become the monster he is now today

I'm 100% sure 20 years ago Big Mom > Kaido ...
This was obvious long ago with all the info we had.
BM became Yonko level prior Kaido
Kaido caught up later on.

Roger avoided fighting BM
You think he will avoid fighting this Kaido?

26-20 years ago : Roger~WB >shiki >BM >Kaido
20-12 years ago : wB > BM > Kaido > Shanks
12-6 years ago : wb > BM~ Kaido > Shanks
6 years ago till now : Kaido >= BM>Shanks>Old sick WB.

Kaido had his WSC and 1 vs 1 hype already in Ace rookie carrer.
 
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