Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

[Buusatan94]

It's so sad he lost his best shadows over time

I think the saddest is that he lost his living crewmates who were far more powerful and truer companions than his zombie subordinates.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

So Kaido likes Orochi cuz Orochis baba saved his ass?

 

[Shura]

I mean Oden was completely defeated at the end of encounter though... The encounter ended with Oden dancing naked in the street yet he could've soloed these fools

It is not like that....Oden could have had wano support and yakuza and all others while Kaido and Orochi didn't have an appropriate foothold.....Oden could have ended but that is why they tricked him into that shady contract which is what we don't yet....no wonder Kaido called him..."stupid lord"......or you think in dressrosa why doffy had to all the shit to overthrow riku or crocodile in alabasta....with their powers it was an easy deal to occupy kingdoms....

 

[JerAx]

When Akainu needs to take hostages to defeat a YC2, call me and I’ll take my L with pride. At that point I’ll consider him merely equal to Kaido.
:cheers:

stronger than yonko btw

 

[Finalbeta]

Admiral wankers never change. These people are the same wankers who think Pre-Yonko Shanks didn't grow stronger so they can wank Mihawk over his past duel. Its the same shit with Kaido and Oden now. :holdthisl:

What would even be the point to say Shanks didn't grow when Mihawk is still nowadays confirmed WSS

 

[Jo_Ndule]

But the point of Kaido strenght still stand, it show again that Kaido increase his power very much during the 20years.
Probably back he was either low top tier or mid top tier(lower end). Now he is a high top tier and a very op.

They need Kaido to state how he wasnt strong 25 years ago

Now they are releasing Current Kaido is more confident in his power, he is number 1 and suicidal
He has WSC and 1 vs 1 hype.

This Kaido is way way above The Kaido that matched Oden.

 

[Reign]

of course Kaido would've lost 5 years prior to this. Not only he was weaker, Oden also had full support of Wano's people. They would all gladly take parts in taking down the tyrant. Wano is a mighty country with Oden as their mighty leader. That version of Kaido had no chance.

 

[Sentinel]

Haha Chaden is too stronk

And now imagine how strong Ryuma or Mihawk is.

 

[HA001]

And now imagine how strong Ryuma or Mihawk is.

We been shouting truth for years no one listens

 

[Red Admiral]

• Oden - Low Top Tier
• Kaido - YC1 to Inbetweener

both Oden and this Kaido should be above Fujitora tbh

 

[Mohammad211]

25 years ago whole wano was behind oden if want

after few years

almost most of wano hate oden
it's not only about power level

 

[MarineHQ]

both Oden and this Kaido should be above Fujitora tbh

Based on what?

 

[Finalbeta]

And now imagine how strong Ryuma or Mihawk is.

I also still put Prime Ray comfortably above Oden

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Did i ever mention current Kaido ? all my posts were about FB Kaido

Yes FB Kaido
Which FB kaido?
Coz FB MATCHED Oden
FB kaido admitted inferiority to Oden if it was 5 years earlier

 

[Buusatan94]

On the other hand, Kaido implied his inferiority 5 years ago but after 5 years he equally (!) matched Oden. Imo this is an indication that Kaido simply grew stronger in which he finally matched Oden.

After this information, it is highly likely that current Kaido is the prime Kaido and the Kaido 20 years ago was still growing in strength.

This is my impression as well. I strongly doubt that current Kaido or any of his fellow yonkos wouldn't be able of defeating Oden such as he was when he fought Kaido.

 

[Chrono]

Sure Oden could match Kaido from 20 years ago. However Current Kaido would fart and Oden would worship that fart. That is the difference.

Oden potentially had the power to get to Top Tier if he lived. Too bad he died a mere YC lvl

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

Lol Kaido YC1

Maybe as a kid

You really ready to say prime moriah is anything above YC1?

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Rayleigh and Oden would have make Dragon soup.

Fool Oden by rejecting him.

 

[Erkan12]

What would even be the point to say Shanks didn't grow when Mihawk is still nowadays confirmed WSS

Mihawk is a loser like Moria who live as a Shichibukai dog and in the paradise of Grand Line, not even in the New world

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I hate protecting Yonkotards but what else can I do

- Kaido 20 years ago was YC1 lvl
- Oden was YC1 lvl
- Both were equal to each other
- Kaido 25 years ago didnt have the forces needed to defeat Oden and the Scarbbards
- Now he does and his crew defeated the scarbbards.


- At the end of the day even if Oden beat Kaido extreme diff.....King wouldve finished Oden off.

- Beast Pirates wouldve won either way

(And thats if Kaido wouldve lost. Kaido is confirmed to have a mythcial fruit at this time and we havent seen him go hybrid yet.)



Kaido's hype is not detered. This is Kaido 20 years ago....and not current Top Tier Kaido


Ok....done.

Where you get yc1 from?