Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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Kaidou: Yes that’s right...*Worororo* Everything was a lie. At the time we concluded that we were at a disadvantage. You returned to Wano, so if per chance you joined hands with Hyougoro...all of Wano’s Samurai & chivalrous folk would have been our enemies. So it’d have most likely been a tough battle for us that were short on man power at the time.

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Kaidou: Yes that’s right...*Worororo* Everything was a lie. At the time we concluded that we were at a disadvantage. You returned to Wano so I needed 5 years to train cuz I was too weak and couldn't win a duel against you.
ps. My crew sucks ass and Jack hmm I mean Lack is still a Kid!!
true kaido didnt admit to getting stronger in those 5 years
dont see any reason to think the next 14 or so he grew much in that case. oden is taking him close to his prime power. oden is just that strong and people would rather admit kaido was so weak back then.
 
Kaido admitting he'd have been overwhelmed by Wano's forces 5years ago actually goes against the narrative he grew stronger. He was referring to military might

And if 5years ago Kaido was only trying to avoid getting overwhelmed in military, yet 5years later, Oden could individually match if not dominate him, giving him a permanent scar and Kaido needing a distraction from Grandma using Momonosuke's appearance to disturb Oden, to win, it just further shows that 5years prior, Kaido had no chance to win with Hyogoro/Wano's military force


And we know the current scabbards were mentioned to have grown stronger, so just imagine if Oden and the scabbards actually trained during those 5years instead of dancing

It'd have been a massacre in Wano's favor :josad:I'm starting to wonder tho if this Oden didn't have pirate king potential lol
Dancing king he sure would be
 

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true kaido didnt admit to getting stronger in those 5 years
dont see any reason to think the next 14 or so he grew much in that case. oden is taking him close to his prime power. oden is just that strong and people would rather admit kaido was so weak back then.
He unintentionally did by "Singlehandedly" attacking the Navy and the Yonkos trying to suicide I mean say whatever u want but if this is not a training....
 
Kaido admitting he'd have been overwhelmed by Wano's forces 5years ago actually goes against the narrative he grew stronger. He was referring to military might

And if 5years ago Kaido was only trying to avoid getting overwhelmed in military, yet 5years later, Oden could individually match if not dominate him, giving him a permanent scar and Kaido needing a distraction from Grandma using Momonosuke's appearance to disturb Oden, to win, it just further shows that 5years prior, Kaido had no chance to win with Hyogoro/Wano's military force


And we know the current scabbards were mentioned to have grown stronger, so just imagine if Oden and the scabbards actually trained during those 5years instead of dancing

It'd have been a massacre in Wano's favor :josad:I'm starting to wonder tho if this Oden didn't have pirate king potential lol
Oden didn't Dominate him. He hit him in Dragon form which is the slowest. Just like Luffy did, only difference is Oden had Advance Haki. The spoilers literally said they were fighting equal before the grandma.
 
Kaido is a great pirate .

Latakuri is more man for impaling himself?
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I like Kaido
But for him to actually make use of the Old woman to transform into Momonosuke as a way to distract Oden?
That simply made him look like a "coward"
I understand that this is a pirate fight. 1 vs 1 being honored is not to be guaranteed. But among all the 4 Yonko. The person who I'd be LEAST expecting this move from... It's Kaido. The guy wants to commit suicide??? He's searcing for WB??? He is testing Luffy during the fight???? Hello??? Where is that proud warrior???

In comparison, Big Mom herself, when Luffy attacked Mother caramel Pic, and Katakuri attacked Luffy. Big Mom response was "how dare you intervene? do you think I need protection?" That's what big Mom told Katakuri.

What most of us expected from kaido is not to be honroable of course cause he's a villain. But at least we expected him to be "Warrior" who is eager to any fight, eager to have his 1 vs 1. Someone like Kenpachi from Bleach who would slaughter you before intervening in his fight and steal his prey.

But this???
That's what orochi and BB would do man. It made kaido's stock sink for me. Sure, that makes him more dangerous as villain. But we got plenty of those type of villains from Shicibukai. Yonko are supposed to be different league in that they back up their words and do it themselves..
But it seems it will honestly end up as:

Luffy vs Kaido
1 vs 1
No question about it for me at this point. After this flashback? I find it hard to believe what some people suggested about so many supernova ganging up on him

Cause from what it seems. Oden was destroying Kaido perfectly fine with simple "Haki"
So, advanced Haki with Luffy would fuck Kaido up. And it's the solution Oda provided and it will be the solution here.
 
Cuz Yonkos were not a thing before this event lmao
wrong
wb was already in power
big mom confimed to hold her territories for decades plural
kaido said he hadnt met big mom in decades.
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Cuz Yonkos were not a thing before this event lmao
keep fishing lol
only one missing is shanks who stopped him in mf.
 
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