Has Queen been defeated?


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Not really if you look at the stuff Absalom has done.

He rescued Moria from Doffy evading Doffy's CoO in Marineford. He snooped in on Kid, Killer, Apoo and Hawkins and reported their alliance.

Invisibility is still OP in the verse. Not really sure how Sanji figured Queen out, maybe he heard some sound or sth.
That is because we need to distinguish Stealth from actual invisibility caused by the clear clear fruit. This chapter shows the difference
 
"The “Color of Arms Haki” that I have been training"
Lemme get this straight. Zoro gets adcoc and Luffy gets adcoa (Internal destruction & Emission), adcoo (Future Sight) & adcoc but all Sanji is getting some basic coa. Couldn't even upgrade his observation haki, the one haki he was supposedly great at:lawsigh:
He literally can track an invisible enemy (Shiryu special power) like it is nothing, plus he already countered Katakuri FS back then lmao
How is his CoO not good enough for you lol
 
Yeah I think I underplayed it there. Invisibility is OP in terms of situational utility. But I figured in a fight where you know the enemy has that ability, competent CoO should still help alleviate the issue in a lot of cases. For example I can’t see invisibility being a massive issue for someone like Katakuri, though I suppose he’s definitely on the higher end of CoO usage.
Speaking of CoO usage, does anyone remember that scene in Marineford where Mihawk sent a random flying slash at Luffy, but right before Luffy was about to stretch, he foresaw his arms getting chopped off? I was an anime-only at the time that came out, was that in the manga as well? Was that supposed to be some crazy telepathic CoO shit or was it just Luffy thinking?

I know there are theories about Mihawk being some god-tier CoO user based on his eyes/epithet as well as the fact that Oda said his original epithet was supposed to be "the clairvoyant"
 
That's true. I see some people easily putting Sanji over King right now, but I would argue just from a visual standpoint King seems much more impressive than Queen even after what he pulled in this chapter

Speed, AP, attack speed, we don't even know how far his durability and/or lunarian hax shit goes

I'm starting to agree with you that Zoro vs King will end next chapter in a pretty disappointing fashion, but if King tanks even 2 ACoC blows without the whole "hax" stuff that would be pretty insane in my opinion
Zoro vs King is not even halfway done. If we are lucky, this year ends with them clashing Haoshoku or maybe even Adv. Haoshoku haki. :myman:
 
Yeah I think I underplayed it there. Invisibility is OP in terms of situational utility. But I figured in a fight where you know the enemy has that ability, competent CoO should still help alleviate the issue in a lot of cases. For example I can’t see invisibility being a massive issue for someone like Katakuri, though I suppose he’s definitely on the higher end of CoO usage.
Invisibility from the clear clear fruit cancels out COO
 

Finalbeta

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Lmao when smoke condenses in the atmosphere from a massive forest fire sure. That's the only way fire can naturally produce lightning. That's not heating up so much that the fire turns to lightning. Thats not how that works. That's not what sanjis doing. Keep coping. Sanjis has God coc:beckmoji:
Oda is far from always scientifically accurate mister impaired.
 
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Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
Sanji need gazillion attacks to take-out fat Okama clown Queen
Candies: "Sanji AP is next level! Sanji wreck Queen harder than BM! (2 hits Vs gazillion hits)! Sanji YM1! Sanji stronger than Marco/Katakuri/King! Sanji = Zoro!"

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:seriously:
This is worst chapter in wano.
Sanji didn't hit a woman and he know it in the end=evil sanji is dead
Queen is humiliated and show Jydge>>>queen.
Filter chapter 0/10
 
Speaking of CoO usage, does anyone remember that scene in Marineford where Mihawk sent a random flying slash at Luffy, but right before Luffy was about to stretch, he foresaw his arms getting chopped off? I was an anime-only at the time that came out, was that in the manga as well? Was that supposed to be some crazy telepathic CoO shit or was it just Luffy thinking?

I know there are theories about Mihawk being some god-tier CoO user based on his eyes/epithet as well as the fact that Oda said his original epithet was supposed to be "the clairvoyant"
That was in the manga, too.

And I think Mihawk has the final level of Adv. CoO even beyond FS: Causality Perception.
 
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