Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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  1. Zoro would overtake Oden in Wano.
  2. Oda doesn't give a shit about power levels.
Zoro overtaking Oden in Wano makes the most sense from a narrative and thematic perspective, so it's what would happen. That it doesn't make sense from a power levels perspective is irrelevant as Oda doesn't care anywhere near as much as the fandom does about power levels.

@Great Pirate D. Law this is for you as well.
Young man, Oda is not going to shit completely in the power levels, he still has in mind that he will have to make post wano Zoro even weaker than Benn Beckman and Shiryu.
If Oda makes Zoro stronger than Oden then Zoro is already reaching the yonkou lvl lol

Stop dreaming and come back to reality
 
Will Nami and Usopp be equals to Roger and Rayleigh too?



There's no evidence he did try nor cared. If he wanted to be Pirate King, then you'd think he'd have a crew, but he's a lone wolf who's only concerns center around swordsmanship.
Oden's statute is being equal to Dark King Rayleigh, as being the strongest division commander (until Marco reaches his prime) of WB pirates who were equal to Roger pirates, he was far more successful than other pirates as someone who reaches to final island. Others are irrelevant in terms power level and knowledge, Oden had the power and the knowledge both.

No there is an evidence; Mihawk was at Roger's execution, just like Croco, Moria and Dof. He was inspired by Roger. He is a pirate, and he is no where near close to being successful as other pirates such as Oden.

Try again mihawk fan :suresure:
 
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I swear these same dudes think WB wasn't in Prime coz he isnt introduced as WSM and Yonko yet 4 years prior his battle versus Roger

But are the same ones to think this Kaido who doesnt have any WSC/1 vs 1 hype/ yonko title
Is slightly weaker or eqaul to The Kaido 20 Years later.

We get it you wanna Wank WB and Roger but you gotta be hella wrong to have such mentality.

Not forgetting WB was 40s and still grew a lot
But Young Kaido didnt grow coz well we don't want Kaido to be much stronger

Also y'all shouldn't hype Oden or wank him, if I remember all of your silly comments against Oden, I feel like puking
 
Young man, Oda is not going to shit completely in the power levels, he still has in mind that he will have to make post wano Zoro even weaker than Benn Beckman and Shiryu.
If Oda makes Zoro stronger than Oden then Zoro is already reaching the yonkou lvl lol

Stop dreaming and come back t reality
b... b... but Zoro trained with a Sword that Oden used for 40 years.
 

Bogard

You can't win
There is no indication Kaido grew any stronger

- Kaido, and Big Mom(with young Whitebeard) were only mentioned to have grown stronger since their days of the Rocks, but there were no indication of when they actually peaked

- We know though that Kaido was in the Rocks 38 years ago, formed his crew 33 years ago, and fought Oden 20years ago. That means he had 18years to grow stronger before facing Oden+experience of fighting in the world strongest crew of the past

- In this batch of spoilers, it mentions that 25years ago, Kaido was trying to avoid being military overwhelmed by Wano forces(mainly Oden+Hyogoro forces), which implies it was the main difference in the 5 timegap instead of individual strength, and military force plays a huge role in the quest to become a yonko, and thus may have more being a reason in Kaido's time to rise to yonko than his individual strength

- Big Mom(who was mentioned to have a cat and mouse relationship with Kaido) was mentioned to have been an unchallenged yonko for decades(so at least 20years) with herself only last meeting Kaido in decades(so 20years at least)


So sure, maybe current Kaido is stronger than 20years ago Kaido, but so far there is no indication of that
 
Dude, against Queen and Cracker, they wanted Luffy to lose to "experience the New World hell" LOL. So, I dare say Queen and Cracker are not actually fan favorites

Sure, there are huge fans of those two. Same for jack. But those fans like them for their character. And not because of the obsession of defeating Luffy.

Dude, I'll tell you even a more fun one. We can all agree on Luffy being superior to Zoro, right???

Here is what I saw from the community during the end of Dressrosa when Luffy faced Fujitora.

"Luffy vs Fujitora??? It's too soon, run for it Luffy, you are idiot, you cannot face him...."

Then those same fans after Zoro said "tag me in"
"Woaaaaaaah" Strong voices and cheers LOL
Queen and cracker are pretty much fodder material at this point for current luffy.
Tbh, I just laugh when I read this kind of thing, it doesn't bother me. I have my expectations for luffy and the good thing for me is that he is the mc so in the end he will always be the one that wins.
 
Just came back from work. See Oden wankers are just as delusional.

Vice-Admiral Kuzan/Akainu(with df) > young Kaido(no df)

If Oden = top tier then Kuzan & Akainu were admiral lvl even back 20 years ago.

If young base Kaido = top tier then prime awakened Kaido > Roger
 
god

Oden is a super human
Oden clash with Whitebeard
Oden fight with Roger
Oden Travel to end of the world
Oden stand equal to Kaido


Zoro tards : Oden was a low top tier ....
First I thought gaban was stronger but I think he was just behind Rayleigh and roger while he was on Roger's ship.
After all Gaban felt a little bit afraid for his position while rayleigh couldn't care less.
 
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Every time i compared oden to prime ray or mihawk sometimes and said end of wano zoro wont be as strong yet

Zoro fans got hella salty lol whatchu mean
Ummm if Zoro had to surpass Oden Rayleigh and Mihawk then you migth expecting a lot of dragging from Oda?

I mean how would you make that progress ?
3 more arcs?
Just asking your view cuz even tho power jumps have been abismal in one piece you still have doubts.
 
There is no indication Kaido grew any stronger

- Kaido, and Big Mom(with young Whitebeard) were only mentioned to have grown stronger since their days of the Rocks, but there were no indication of when they actually peaked

- We know though that Kaido was in the Rocks 38 years ago, formed his crew 33 years ago, and fought Oden 20years ago. That means he had 18years to grow stronger before facing Oden+experience of fighting in the world strongest crew of the past

- In this batch of spoilers, it mentions that 25years ago, Kaido was trying to avoid being military overwhelmed by Wano forces(mainly Oden+Hyogoro forces), which implies it was the main difference in the 5 timegap instead of individual strength, and military force plays a huge role in the quest to become a yonko, and thus may have more being a reason in Kaido's time to rise to yonko than his individual strength

- Big Mom(who was mentioned to have a cat and mouse relationship with Kaido) was mentioned to have been an unchallenged yonko for decades(so at least 20years) with herself only last meeting Kaido in decades(so 20years at least)


So sure, maybe current Kaido is stronger than 20years ago Kaido, but so far there is no indication of that
Kaido was said to be constantly challenging people a d lived has a prisoner. When we get Kaido backstory it will be more clear. Kaodo wasnt sitting around.
 
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