Has Queen been defeated?


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The same dudes who said Luffy is continents above Zoro after his ACoC powerup are the same ones saying that Sanji is suuuuuuper close to Zoro now, even though the portrayal of Queen and King in their respective 1v1s have been night and day.

You know what it is.
Even if the difference between king and queen is so big, if sanji did defeat queen this chapter ( i dont think so ) then he kinda mid diffed him, while zoro is gonna high diff at least king
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Even if the difference between king and queen is so big, if sanji did defeat queen this chapter ( i dont think so ) then he kinda mid diffed him, while zoro is gonna high diff at least king
Sanji mid diff-d Queen post Powerup.
Pre Powerup Sanji would've died to Queen if 1) Queen did not shoot himself and 2) The Powerup didn't kick in at the right time.

Let's see how Post Powerup Zoro does against King.
Pre Powerup Zoro didn't die to King, he was getting beaten down badly though.
 
Interesting. Mind detailing how big? As in, say, Katakuri - Cracker gap, for example.
It would never be as large as the Crscker-Katakuri gap because Cracker isn’t Queens BMP counterpart, Smoothie is. We haven’t seen Smoothie in action, but we do know that Queen’s portrayal is miles better than hers :kayneshrug:

Anyways the gap would be highly visible and unquestionable. Definitely not a low-diff but he would be defeated convincingly.
 

Gol D. Roger

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"Comparable Portrayal" when King almost has Zoro at death's doors multiple times even if he has a small foot wrong while Queen allowed Sanji to have a midlife crisis in between the battle while not using all his abilities because "muh Germa!"
What the fuck, man? Sanji used super speed, exoskeleton body, fire, and highly trained COA to damage Queen. Ain't no way Zoro is matching that with his magic swords and a bit of low tier COC.
 
Sanji mid diff-d Queen post Powerup.
Pre Powerup Sanji would've died to Queen if 1) Queen did not shoot himself and 2) The Powerup didn't kick in at the right time.

Let's see how Post Powerup Zoro does against King.
Firstly he would not die because queen said its enough for him even he got shot by the rockets, secondly im talking about the fight overall, zoro is not able to do anything to king while sanji did preety well until the brachio snake, its gonna be at least a high diff for zoro.
 
Queen landed two hits (the Snakemove and that one moment when he overpowered him Doc Oc style in CQC) on Sanji the entire battle bruh. He also landed two rockets launcher moves on himself btw.

Compare that to how King vs Zoro has been.

Sure, I think Queen is stronger than Smoothie and the gap between King & Queen is closer than Katakuri & Smoothie. There still exists a gap nonetheless.
And that's mainly Queen holding his punches until Sanji got his power up vs King going hard at Zoro

Heck we were not even realizing how much Queen was holding back and faking ignorance or lack of ability to do certain things until this chapter.

Yeah Katakuri mid diffs Smoothie while King high diffs Queen. Maybe even lower end of high difficulty. There's a gap, but Queen is still up there and a troublesome opponent as given credit by Marco.
 
It would never be as large as the Crscker-Katakuri gap because Cracker isn’t Queens BMP counterpart, Smoothie is. We haven’t seen Smoothie in action, but we do know that Queen’s portrayal is miles better than hers :kayneshrug:

Anyways the gap would be highly visible and unquestionable. Definitely not a low-diff but he would be defeated convincingly.
Currently the gap is the same as Marco - Jozu, high to extreme diff fight in Marcos favor.

If King does have Adv. CoC then it’ll be Katakuri - Smoothie level gap. Where it’s a solid high diff
 
And that's mainly Queen holding his punches until Sanji got his power up vs King going hard at Zoro

Heck we were not even realizing how much Queen was holding back and faking ignorance or lack of ability to do certain things until this chapter.

Yeah Katakuri mid diffs Smoothie while King high diffs Queen. Maybe even lower end of high difficulty. There's a gap, but Queen is still up there and a troublesome opponent as given credit by Marco.
That’s because of their personalities. King is a no nonsense killing machine; Queen wanted to prove a point in this fight and finally use his full strength when Sanji used the raid suit to prove himself above Judges tech
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Firstly he would not die because queen said its enough for him even he got shot by the rockets, secondly im talking about the fight overall, zoro is not able to do anything to king while sanji did preety well until the brachio snake, its gonna be at least a high diff for zoro.
He would've died without the powerup kicking in AND Queen loosening his grip. No two ways about it lol.

Sanji didn't hurt Queen even a slight bit before the powerup. Zoro didn't as well. Infact Queen was jobbing instead of finishing Sanji off because "Muh Germa and Raidsuit!" while King's been trashing Zoro around mercilessly.
 

Bogard

You can't win
Queen said that King can survive in any natural environment not that he can't be defeated in battle :milaugh:

Also current Sanji is in a different realm going from getting low mid diffed by a Queen who's holding back almost his whole arsenal, to mid diffing the same Queen going all out :kayneshrug:
Well he used the fact he could survive in any environment and the fact his race used to called "gods" to hype him by explaining why Zoro didn't stand a chance

Sanji didn't fight his entire arsenal though since he was distracted by the prostitute

The issue with Queen has always been that. Unable to focus in battles or properly incorporate his abilities in battle :giogio:
 
I wonder why people are told that Sanji easily towers over Queen.

Against Jabura and Absalom Sanji made it clear was someone saying at the time that they were zero ?

No, we only said that Sanji was strong. Sanji has always won his fights easily than Zoro. Zoro has always won his fights more easily than Luffy.

When Luffy wins his fights he is almost knocked out.
Besides, before winning he loses several times.

It's always been like that for the monster trio. I don't know why habits have to change.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
And that's mainly Queen holding his punches until Sanji got his power up vs King going hard at Zoro
I really do think King is going to show even more though. He was toying with Zoro and even that was a merciless beatdown.

Yeah Katakuri mid diffs Smoothie while King high diffs Queen. Maybe even lower end of high difficulty. There's a gap, but Queen is still up there and a troublesome opponent as given credit by Marco.
Yep. This is what I agree with.

Queen should get the credit he deserves. He stands alongside ppl like Jozu [commanders with bounty over a billion] not shitstains like Smoothie. King/Marco/Katakuri are all RHMs with Bounty over a Billion. They stand on a separate pedestal compared to the likes of Queen and Jozu as well.
 
"Comparable Portrayal" when King almost has Zoro at death's doors multiple times even if he has a small foot wrong while Queen allowed Sanji to have a midlife crisis in between the battle while not using all his abilities because "muh Germa!"
Sanji and Zoro are two near equal wings of the future PK. He's having an easier time with Queen because he is so close to Zoro.
 
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